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Creating a LENR Newsgroup
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Marvin the Martian
2012-02-02 00:33:56 UTC
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Hi all,
Anyone want to discuss creating a LENR newsgroup.
My first thought is;
alt.lenr
Here's a tutorial for alt.** newsgroups.
http://nylon.net/alt/
I don't have the time, knowledge, or determination to follow this idea
through to completion.
I do want stimulate the desire in someone else.
What is wrong with alt.energy.nuclear ?
It has very low traffic, so I don't see any need for a subgroup, like
alt.energy.nuclear.lner
When I search about nuclear news, I start with alt.energy.nuclear or
similar (why otherwise ?).
The only reason to create e new NG is to "forget" the archived history,
unless you like to add, every year, new titles in your newsgroup reader.
Or your scope is to create an "exclusive" club, without connections with
other nuclear matters, like you would do with a religion, very you w'ont
discuss with other faiths ?
IIRC, sci.physics.fusion was created for cold fusion discussion right
after P&F discovered cold fusion.

Idiot trolls killed all discussion, insulted the researchers right out of
the group, and the group was abandoned.
Bill Snyder
2012-02-02 00:40:45 UTC
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On Wed, 01 Feb 2012 18:33:56 -0600, Marvin the Martian
Post by Marvin the Martian
Hi all,
Anyone want to discuss creating a LENR newsgroup.
My first thought is;
alt.lenr
Here's a tutorial for alt.** newsgroups.
http://nylon.net/alt/
I don't have the time, knowledge, or determination to follow this idea
through to completion.
I do want stimulate the desire in someone else.
What is wrong with alt.energy.nuclear ?
It has very low traffic, so I don't see any need for a subgroup, like
alt.energy.nuclear.lner
When I search about nuclear news, I start with alt.energy.nuclear or
similar (why otherwise ?).
The only reason to create e new NG is to "forget" the archived history,
unless you like to add, every year, new titles in your newsgroup reader.
Or your scope is to create an "exclusive" club, without connections with
other nuclear matters, like you would do with a religion, very you w'ont
discuss with other faiths ?
IIRC, sci.physics.fusion was created for cold fusion discussion right
after P&F discovered cold fusion.
Idiot trolls killed all discussion, insulted the researchers right out of
the group, and the group was abandoned.
You misspelled, "Grandiose claims, never backed up by the tiniest
shred of evidence, and the consequent ridicule, led the
hype-mongers to adjourn to their own web boards where they could
lie as much as they liked and never be mocked, while the sane
people lost interest and wandered off."
--
Bill Snyder [This space unintentionally left blank]
BJACOBY@teranews.com
2012-02-02 06:30:51 UTC
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Post by Bill Snyder
On Wed, 01 Feb 2012 18:33:56 -0600, Marvin the Martian
Post by Marvin the Martian
Idiot trolls killed all discussion, insulted the researchers right out of
the group, and the group was abandoned.
You misspelled, "Grandiose claims, never backed up by the tiniest
shred of evidence, and the consequent ridicule, led the
hype-mongers to adjourn to their own web boards where they could
lie as much as they liked and never be mocked, while the sane
people lost interest and wandered off."
From this we conclude that Marvin gave a correct historical description
and Bill Snyder was clearly one of the idiot trolls who disrupted all
reasonable discussion with insults, accusations that anyone not taking a
"debunking' position was "insane", and denigration of all participants.
(you know, just like he does here)
Bill Snyder
2012-02-02 07:07:19 UTC
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Post by Bill Snyder
On Wed, 01 Feb 2012 18:33:56 -0600, Marvin the Martian
Post by Marvin the Martian
Idiot trolls killed all discussion, insulted the researchers right out of
the group, and the group was abandoned.
You misspelled, "Grandiose claims, never backed up by the tiniest
shred of evidence, and the consequent ridicule, led the
hype-mongers to adjourn to their own web boards where they could
lie as much as they liked and never be mocked, while the sane
people lost interest and wandered off."
From this we conclude that Marvin gave a correct historical description
and Bill Snyder was clearly one of the idiot trolls who disrupted all
reasonable discussion with insults, accusations that anyone not taking a
"debunking' position was "insane", and denigration of all participants.
(you know, just like he does here)
Says the king of loons, who never heard a bit of wackadoodle he
didn't endorse. You may conclude that, but I was talking to any
of the aforesaid sane people who happened to still be reading.
--
Bill Snyder [This space unintentionally left blank]
gaby de wilde
2012-02-02 08:43:40 UTC
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Post by ***@teranews.com
Post by Bill Snyder
On Wed, 01 Feb 2012 18:33:56 -0600, Marvin the Martian
Post by Marvin the Martian
Idiot trolls killed all discussion, insulted the researchers right out of
the group, and the group was abandoned.
You misspelled, "Grandiose claims, never backed up by the tiniest
shred of evidence, and the consequent ridicule, led the
hype-mongers to adjourn to their own web boards where they could
lie as much as they liked and never be mocked, while the sane
people lost interest and wandered off."
From this we conclude that Marvin gave a correct historical description
and Bill Snyder was clearly one of the idiot trolls who disrupted all
reasonable discussion with insults, accusations that anyone not taking a
"debunking' position was "insane", and denigration of all participants.
(you know, just like he does here)
Says the king of loons, who never heard a bit of wackadoodle he
didn't endorse.  You may conclude that, but I was talking to any
of the aforesaid sane people who happened to still be reading.
--
Bill Snyder  [This space unintentionally left blank]
I don't think jacobi's insanity is a good excuse to be an asshole
hillbilly.
Bill Snyder
2012-02-02 14:32:34 UTC
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On Thu, 2 Feb 2012 00:43:40 -0800 (PST), gaby de wilde
Post by gaby de wilde
Post by Bill Snyder
Post by ***@teranews.com
Post by Bill Snyder
On Wed, 01 Feb 2012 18:33:56 -0600, Marvin the Martian
Post by Marvin the Martian
Idiot trolls killed all discussion, insulted the researchers right out of
the group, and the group was abandoned.
You misspelled, "Grandiose claims, never backed up by the tiniest
shred of evidence, and the consequent ridicule, led the
hype-mongers to adjourn to their own web boards where they could
lie as much as they liked and never be mocked, while the sane
people lost interest and wandered off."
From this we conclude that Marvin gave a correct historical description
and Bill Snyder was clearly one of the idiot trolls who disrupted all
reasonable discussion with insults, accusations that anyone not taking a
"debunking' position was "insane", and denigration of all participants.
(you know, just like he does here)
Says the king of loons, who never heard a bit of wackadoodle he
didn't endorse.  You may conclude that, but I was talking to any
of the aforesaid sane people who happened to still be reading.
--
Bill Snyder  [This space unintentionally left blank]
I don't think jacobi's insanity is a good excuse to be an asshole
hillbilly.
Or a pretentious twit, for that matter.
--
Bill Snyder [This space unintentionally left blank]
7
2012-02-12 21:05:22 UTC
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Post by Bill Snyder
Post by ***@teranews.com
Post by Bill Snyder
On Wed, 01 Feb 2012 18:33:56 -0600, Marvin the Martian
Post by Marvin the Martian
Idiot trolls killed all discussion, insulted the researchers right out
of the group, and the group was abandoned.
You misspelled, "Grandiose claims, never backed up by the tiniest
shred of evidence, and the consequent ridicule, led the
hype-mongers to adjourn to their own web boards where they could
lie as much as they liked and never be mocked, while the sane
people lost interest and wandered off."
From this we conclude that Marvin gave a correct historical description
and Bill Snyder was clearly one of the idiot trolls who disrupted all
reasonable discussion with insults, accusations that anyone not taking a
"debunking' position was "insane", and denigration of all participants.
(you know, just like he does here)
Says the king of loons, who never heard a bit of wackadoodle he
didn't endorse. You may conclude that, but I was talking to any
of the aforesaid sane people who happened to still be reading.
Run along troll, leave low energy fusion to experimenters to disseminate.

Unless of course you want to share something
that is more than just arm waving.
Marvin the Martian
2012-02-12 21:15:15 UTC
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Post by Bill Snyder
On Wed, 01 Feb 2012 18:33:56 -0600, Marvin the Martian
Post by Marvin the Martian
Idiot trolls killed all discussion, insulted the researchers right
out of the group, and the group was abandoned.
You misspelled, "Grandiose claims, never backed up by the tiniest
shred of evidence, and the consequent ridicule, led the hype-mongers
to adjourn to their own web boards where they could lie as much as
they liked and never be mocked, while the sane people lost interest
and wandered off."
From this we conclude that Marvin gave a correct historical
description
and Bill Snyder was clearly one of the idiot trolls who disrupted all
reasonable discussion with insults, accusations that anyone not taking
a "debunking' position was "insane", and denigration of all
participants. (you know, just like he does here)
Says the king of loons, who never heard a bit of wackadoodle he didn't
endorse. You may conclude that, but I was talking to any of the
aforesaid sane people who happened to still be reading.
Run along troll, leave low energy fusion to experimenters to
disseminate.
Unless of course you want to share something that is more than just arm
waving.
An unmoderated usenet group would work, if everyone, including those who
disagree with cold fusion, would agree to add folks like Snyder, who
contributes nothing and is only trying to kill the discussion, to their
kill files.
7
2012-02-13 00:02:17 UTC
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Post by Marvin the Martian
Post by 7
Post by ***@teranews.com
Post by Bill Snyder
Post by Marvin the Martian
Idiot trolls killed all discussion, insulted the researchers right
out of the group, and the group was abandoned.
You misspelled, "Grandiose claims, never backed up by the tiniest
shred of evidence, and the consequent ridicule, led the hype-mongers
to adjourn to their own web boards where they could lie as much as
they liked and never be mocked, while the sane people lost interest
and wandered off."
From this we conclude that Marvin gave a correct historical
description
and Bill Snyder was clearly one of the idiot trolls who disrupted all
reasonable discussion with insults, accusations that anyone not taking
a "debunking' position was "insane", and denigration of all
participants. (you know, just like he does here)
Says the king of loons, who never heard a bit of wackadoodle he didn't
endorse. You may conclude that, but I was talking to any of the
aforesaid sane people who happened to still be reading.
Run along troll, leave low energy fusion to experimenters to
disseminate.
Unless of course you want to share something that is more than just arm
waving.
An unmoderated usenet group would work, if everyone, including those who
disagree with cold fusion, would agree to add folks like Snyder, who
contributes nothing and is only trying to kill the discussion, to their
kill files.
Trolling doesn't work these days as everyone is aware of trolls like Snyder
and their relentless shilling and quacking.
Some of the latest trolls are not real persons - they are automated robots.

Troll meat is delicious because you know they must enter
into correspondence or their managers are gonna slap them.
Troll bashing is a hilarious new sport.
I have to keep sending myself notes to remind me not
to play with trolls.

By all means talk up more LENR - it is fascinating.
sci.fusion is the best newsgroup for it.
Marvin the Martian
2012-02-02 11:59:55 UTC
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Post by Bill Snyder
On Wed, 01 Feb 2012 18:33:56 -0600, Marvin the Martian
Post by Marvin the Martian
Idiot trolls killed all discussion, insulted the researchers right out
of the group, and the group was abandoned.
You misspelled, "Grandiose claims, never backed up by the tiniest shred
of evidence, and the consequent ridicule, led the hype-mongers to
adjourn to their own web boards where they could lie as much as they
liked and never be mocked, while the sane people lost interest and
wandered off."
From this we conclude that Marvin gave a correct historical description
and Bill Snyder was clearly one of the idiot trolls who disrupted all
reasonable discussion with insults, accusations that anyone not taking a
"debunking' position was "insane", and denigration of all participants.
(you know, just like he does here)
Yes. For some reason I have Mr. Snyder killfiled.

But there were all kinds of arguments against cold fusion; they found
helium in the mass spec of the gas out of the cold fusion chamber. They
insisted, without any reason at all, that all labs have helium in them
that magically grow in time just so to fool the device.

There as proof of transmutation of metals, and that was dismissed as NOT
being a nuclear reaction. What?!

And the ad homs these guys put out were endless. There were several
researchers there, and they insulted them right out of the group. They
even got to the point of being creepy cyber stalkers.

It was to the point of being silly.
Bill Snyder
2012-02-02 14:32:02 UTC
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On Thu, 02 Feb 2012 05:59:55 -0600, Marvin the Martian
Post by Marvin the Martian
Post by ***@teranews.com
Post by Bill Snyder
On Wed, 01 Feb 2012 18:33:56 -0600, Marvin the Martian
Post by Marvin the Martian
Idiot trolls killed all discussion, insulted the researchers right out
of the group, and the group was abandoned.
You misspelled, "Grandiose claims, never backed up by the tiniest shred
of evidence, and the consequent ridicule, led the hype-mongers to
adjourn to their own web boards where they could lie as much as they
liked and never be mocked, while the sane people lost interest and
wandered off."
From this we conclude that Marvin gave a correct historical description
and Bill Snyder was clearly one of the idiot trolls who disrupted all
reasonable discussion with insults, accusations that anyone not taking a
"debunking' position was "insane", and denigration of all participants.
(you know, just like he does here)
Yes. For some reason I have Mr. Snyder killfiled.
But there were all kinds of arguments against cold fusion; they found
helium in the mass spec of the gas out of the cold fusion chamber. They
insisted, without any reason at all, that all labs have helium in them
that magically grow in time just so to fool the device.
There as proof of transmutation of metals, and that was dismissed as NOT
being a nuclear reaction. What?!
And the ad homs these guys put out were endless. There were several
researchers there, and they insulted them right out of the group. They
even got to the point of being creepy cyber stalkers.
It was to the point of being silly.
Name a researcher who was here, and who was "insulted out of the
group."
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Bill Snyder [This space unintentionally left blank]
tom
2012-02-05 03:46:27 UTC
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Post by Bill Snyder
On Thu, 02 Feb 2012 05:59:55 -0600, Marvin the Martian
Post by Marvin the Martian
Post by ***@teranews.com
Post by Bill Snyder
On Wed, 01 Feb 2012 18:33:56 -0600, Marvin the Martian
Post by Marvin the Martian
Idiot trolls killed all discussion, insulted the researchers right out
of the group, and the group was abandoned.
You misspelled, "Grandiose claims, never backed up by the tiniest shred
of evidence, and the consequent ridicule, led the hype-mongers to
adjourn to their own web boards where they could lie as much as they
liked and never be mocked, while the sane people lost interest and
wandered off."
From this we conclude that Marvin gave a correct historical description
and Bill Snyder was clearly one of the idiot trolls who disrupted all
reasonable discussion with insults, accusations that anyone not taking a
"debunking' position was "insane", and denigration of all participants.
(you know, just like he does here)
Yes. For some reason I have Mr. Snyder killfiled.
But there were all kinds of arguments against cold fusion; they found
helium in the mass spec of the gas out of the cold fusion chamber. They
insisted, without any reason at all, that all labs have helium in them
that magically grow in time just so to fool the device.
There as proof of transmutation of metals, and that was dismissed as NOT
being a nuclear reaction. What?!
And the ad homs these guys put out were endless. There were several
researchers there, and they insulted them right out of the group. They
even got to the point of being creepy cyber stalkers.
It was to the point of being silly.
Name a researcher who was here, and who was "insulted out of the
group."
You guys are pretty amusing. Some wit. Not too nasty.

Does this go on all the time? I may have to monitor this.

Really. I like it.

tom
K0TAR
7
2012-02-13 00:05:04 UTC
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Post by Marvin the Martian
Post by ***@teranews.com
Post by Bill Snyder
On Wed, 01 Feb 2012 18:33:56 -0600, Marvin the Martian
Post by Marvin the Martian
Idiot trolls killed all discussion, insulted the researchers right out
of the group, and the group was abandoned.
You misspelled, "Grandiose claims, never backed up by the tiniest shred
of evidence, and the consequent ridicule, led the hype-mongers to
adjourn to their own web boards where they could lie as much as they
liked and never be mocked, while the sane people lost interest and
wandered off."
From this we conclude that Marvin gave a correct historical description
and Bill Snyder was clearly one of the idiot trolls who disrupted all
reasonable discussion with insults, accusations that anyone not taking a
"debunking' position was "insane", and denigration of all participants.
(you know, just like he does here)
Yes. For some reason I have Mr. Snyder killfiled.
But there were all kinds of arguments against cold fusion; they found
helium in the mass spec of the gas out of the cold fusion chamber. They
insisted, without any reason at all, that all labs have helium in them
that magically grow in time just so to fool the device.
There as proof of transmutation of metals, and that was dismissed as NOT
being a nuclear reaction. What?!
And the ad homs these guys put out were endless. There were several
researchers there, and they insulted them right out of the group. They
even got to the point of being creepy cyber stalkers.
It was to the point of being silly.
Trolls are dime a dozen.

Troll bashing is a hilarious new sport.
Try it some time.

I have to keep notes to remind me not to play with the trolls.
Its a bad habit.
7
2012-02-11 23:47:48 UTC
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Post by ***@teranews.com
Post by Bill Snyder
Post by Marvin the Martian
Idiot trolls killed all discussion, insulted the researchers right out
of the group, and the group was abandoned.
You misspelled, "Grandiose claims, never backed up by the tiniest
shred of evidence, and the consequent ridicule, led the
hype-mongers to adjourn to their own web boards where they could
lie as much as they liked and never be mocked, while the sane
people lost interest and wandered off."
From this we conclude that Marvin gave a correct historical description
and Bill Snyder was clearly one of the idiot trolls who disrupted all
reasonable discussion with insults, accusations that anyone not taking a
"debunking' position was "insane", and denigration of all participants.
(you know, just like he does here)
Standard practice for paid trolls to engage a newsgroup
to kill discussion to buy time.

The question is who is paying and why.

If US government agencies got involved (which they did),
then its always someone attached to their funding sources trying
to make sure everyone else doesn't have a forum
for discussions:

Sadly for them, they did not get ahead because in their
mad bid to get ahead, they killed discussion.



Trolling is an Industry in USA
------------------------------

Most US politicians and businesses
are so corrupt and reliant to the point of addiction
on trolls and trolling and so the fund it all illegally
through charities because
funding through charities is untraceable
through loopholes in US law.

The US politicians, embassy staff and anyone else falling for it like
Spanish government should know that the US trolls
ordering embassies to this kind of work
have no mandate for these kinds of activities.

Just rich companies that have bank rolled teams of asstroturfers
to create fake support and certainly no mandate.

There is NO MANDATE when fake asstroturfers are driving
the agenda.

The situation is so bad, it has spread into the military.
No one now knows who drives what agenda because
there is no traceability.

The fscking military, politicians, enviro nuts, music maffia,
using asstroturfing technology need the riot act read to them.

The situation is so incomprehensible that
the US has been declared falsely that it is the most charitable nation in
the world when at the same time 3 million US families
are living in shelter, and most of that charity money is fake
money being diverted from corporations into the coffers of asstroturfing
and PR companies.

Most of the money funneled through
charities never make it to charitable causes in the USA.
It is stolen by politicians and pressure groups to cover
up their fake funding routes for asstroturfing.
They are used to it so we got to get over it?

No thanks!!!!

Not a single politician, embassy staff or military has a
mandate for one single political agenda because no one
knows who is funding who and who's agenda is real
and whose agenda is fake. Every signature collected
is one more fake signature for a mandate written out by
asstroturfers.

Asstroturfing through charities undermines society,
and all the nations dealing with US
and it must stop because no one in US has any legitimate
mandates for any of this activity any more.

If they have it, then should display their mandate
with pride, and show where the support had come from
and if any of it is through charities, then the
whole mandate is faked because charity status is being
abused to hide funding routes for corporate asstroturfing.



Asstroturfer offerings
----------------------


I've just read the contents of the fbo.gov solicitation RTB220610

The US government wants asstroturfers and with it sophisticated
asstroturfing technology to drown out democratic free speech,
and then hide from those whom it seeks to victimize.

It was point no.3 that caught my eye:
0003- Static IP Address Management

What that means is the same as what I've been saying for a while about
doofi, flatcake and clog are true.

They are not individuals but a whole asstroturfing team
behind each sock puppet.

There isn't enough memory between the sock operators to know
or remember what had been said earlier so you know the
conversations are being typed out by multiple individuals
impersonating each other.
It was notable gaffs by the goofy doofy sock that first gave it away.

The asstrotufing teams had already gone into government and offered them
consulting services about what technology and asstroturfing
practices were out there for fbo.gov to decide what they will
purchase in solicitation RTB220610.


:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D



https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=d88e9d660336be91552fe8c1a51bacb2&tab=core&_cview=1

Solicitation Number: RTB220610
Notice Type: Sources Sought
Synopsis: Added: 2010-06-22 13:42:52Jun 22, 2010 1:42 pm
Modified: 2010-06-22 14:07:11Jun 22, 2010 2:07 pmTrack Changes

0001- Online Persona Management Service.

50 User Licenses, 10 Personas per user. Software will
allow 10 personas per user, replete with background,
history, supporting details, and cyber presences
that are technically, culturally and geographacilly
consistent. Individual applications will enable an
operator to exercise a number of different online
persons from the same workstation and without fear
of being discovered by sophisticated adversaries.
Personas must be able to appear to originate in
nearly any part of the world and can interact through
conventional online services and social media platforms.
The service includes a user friendly application
environment to maximize the user's situational
awareness by displaying real-time local information.


0002- Secure Virtual Private Network (VPN).

1 each VPN provides the ability for users to
daily and automatically obtain
randomly selected IP addresses through
which they can access the internet. The daily
rotation of the user s IP address prevents compromise
during observation of likely or targeted web sites
or services, while hiding the existence of the
operation. In addition, may provide traffic mixing,
blending the user s traffic with traffic from multitudes
of users from outside the organization. This traffic
blending provides excellent cover and powerful deniability.
Anonymizer Enterprise Chameleon or equal


0003- Static IP Address Management.


:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D


50 each Licence protects the identity of government
agencies and enterprise organizations. Enables organizations
to manage their persistent online personas by assigning
static IP addresses to each persona. Individuals
can perform static impersonations, which allow
them to look like the same person over time. Also allows
organizations that frequent same site/service often to
easily switch IP addresses to look like ordinary
users as opposed to one organization.
Anonymizer IP Mapper License or equal

:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D


0004- Virtual Private Servers,

CONUS. 1 each Provides CONUS or OCONUS points of
presence locations that are setup for each customer
based on the geographic area of operations the
customer is operating within and which allow a
customer?s online persona(s) to appear to originate
from. Ability to provide virtual private servers that
are procured using commercial hosting centers around
the world and which are established anonymously. Once
procured, the geosite is incorporated into the network
and integrated within the customers environment and
ready for use by the customer. Unless specifically
designated as shared, locations are dedicated for use
by each customer and never shared among other customers.
Anonymizer Annual Dedicated CONUS Light Geosite or equal


0005- Virtual Private Servers, OCONUS.

8 Each Provides CONUS or OCONUS points of presence
locations that are setup for each customer based on
the geographic area of operations the customer is
operating within and which allow a customer?s
online persona(s) to appear toWas it related to drug abuse?

originate from. Ability to provide virtual private
servers that are procured using commercial hosting
centers around the world and which are established
anonymously. Once procured, the geosite is incorporated
into the network and integrated within the customers
environment and ready for use by the customer. Unless
specifically designated as shared, locations are dedicated
for use by each customer and never shared among other
customers. Anonymizer Annual Dedicated OCONUS Light ell troll, i
Geosite or equal


0006- Remote Access Secure Virtual Private Network.

1 each Secure Operating Environment provides a reliable
and protected computing environment from which to stage
and conduct operations. Every session uses a clean
Virtual Machine (VM) image. The solution is accessed
through sets of Virtual Private Network (VPN) devices
located at each Customer facility. The fully-managed
VDI (Virtual Desktop Infrastructure) is an environment
that allows users remote access from their desktop into
a VM. Upon session termination, the VM is deleted and
any virus, worm, or malicious software that the user
inadvertently downloaded is destroyed. Anonymizer
Virtual Desktop Infrastructure (VDI) Solution or equal.


Contracting Office Address:
2606 Brown Pelican Ave.
MacDill AFB, Florida 33621-5000
United States
Lets start this troll interrogation again:
Place of Performance:
Performance will be at MacDIll AFB, Kabul, Afghanistan and Baghdad, Iraq.
MacDill AFB , Florida 33679
United States

Primary Point of Contact.:
Russell Beasley,
Contracting Officer
russell.beasley-***@macdill.af.mil
Phone: (813) 828-4729
Fax: (813) 828-5111
Bill Snyder
2012-02-12 01:02:46 UTC
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Post by Bill Snyder
Post by Marvin the Martian
Idiot trolls killed all discussion, insulted the researchers right out
of the group, and the group was abandoned.
You misspelled, "Grandiose claims, never backed up by the tiniest
shred of evidence, and the consequent ridicule, led the
hype-mongers to adjourn to their own web boards where they could
lie as much as they liked and never be mocked, while the sane
people lost interest and wandered off."
From this we conclude that Marvin gave a correct historical description
and Bill Snyder was clearly one of the idiot trolls who disrupted all
reasonable discussion with insults, accusations that anyone not taking a
"debunking' position was "insane", and denigration of all participants.
(you know, just like he does here)
Standard practice for paid trolls to engage a newsgroup
to kill discussion to buy time.
The question is who is paying and why.
If US government agencies got involved (which they did),
then its always someone attached to their funding sources trying
to make sure everyone else doesn't have a forum
Sadly for them, they did not get ahead because in their
mad bid to get ahead, they killed discussion.
Trolling is an Industry in USA
------------------------------
Most US politicians and businesses
are so corrupt and reliant to the point of addiction
on trolls and trolling and so the fund it all illegally
through charities because
funding through charities is untraceable
through loopholes in US law.
The US politicians, embassy staff and anyone else falling for it like
Spanish government should know that the US trolls
ordering embassies to this kind of work
have no mandate for these kinds of activities.
Just rich companies that have bank rolled teams of asstroturfers
to create fake support and certainly no mandate.
There is NO MANDATE when fake asstroturfers are driving
the agenda.
The situation is so bad, it has spread into the military.
No one now knows who drives what agenda because
there is no traceability.
The fscking military, politicians, enviro nuts, music maffia,
using asstroturfing technology need the riot act read to them.
The situation is so incomprehensible that
the US has been declared falsely that it is the most charitable nation in
the world when at the same time 3 million US families
are living in shelter, and most of that charity money is fake
money being diverted from corporations into the coffers of asstroturfing
and PR companies.
Most of the money funneled through
charities never make it to charitable causes in the USA.
It is stolen by politicians and pressure groups to cover
up their fake funding routes for asstroturfing.
They are used to it so we got to get over it?
No thanks!!!!
Not a single politician, embassy staff or military has a
mandate for one single political agenda because no one
knows who is funding who and who's agenda is real
and whose agenda is fake. Every signature collected
is one more fake signature for a mandate written out by
asstroturfers.
Asstroturfing through charities undermines society,
and all the nations dealing with US
and it must stop because no one in US has any legitimate
mandates for any of this activity any more.
If they have it, then should display their mandate
with pride, and show where the support had come from
and if any of it is through charities, then the
whole mandate is faked because charity status is being
abused to hide funding routes for corporate asstroturfing.
Asstroturfer offerings
----------------------
I've just read the contents of the fbo.gov solicitation RTB220610
The US government wants asstroturfers and with it sophisticated
asstroturfing technology to drown out democratic free speech,
and then hide from those whom it seeks to victimize.
0003- Static IP Address Management
What that means is the same as what I've been saying for a while about
doofi, flatcake and clog are true.
They are not individuals but a whole asstroturfing team
behind each sock puppet.
There isn't enough memory between the sock operators to know
or remember what had been said earlier so you know the
conversations are being typed out by multiple individuals
impersonating each other.
It was notable gaffs by the goofy doofy sock that first gave it away.
The asstrotufing teams had already gone into government and offered them
consulting services about what technology and asstroturfing
practices were out there for fbo.gov to decide what they will
purchase in solicitation RTB220610.
:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D
https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=d88e9d660336be91552fe8c1a51bacb2&tab=core&_cview=1
Solicitation Number: RTB220610
Notice Type: Sources Sought
Synopsis: Added: 2010-06-22 13:42:52Jun 22, 2010 1:42 pm
Modified: 2010-06-22 14:07:11Jun 22, 2010 2:07 pmTrack Changes
0001- Online Persona Management Service.
50 User Licenses, 10 Personas per user. Software will
allow 10 personas per user, replete with background,
history, supporting details, and cyber presences
that are technically, culturally and geographacilly
consistent. Individual applications will enable an
operator to exercise a number of different online
persons from the same workstation and without fear
of being discovered by sophisticated adversaries.
Personas must be able to appear to originate in
nearly any part of the world and can interact through
conventional online services and social media platforms.
The service includes a user friendly application
environment to maximize the user's situational
awareness by displaying real-time local information.
0002- Secure Virtual Private Network (VPN).
1 each VPN provides the ability for users to
daily and automatically obtain
randomly selected IP addresses through
which they can access the internet. The daily
rotation of the user s IP address prevents compromise
during observation of likely or targeted web sites
or services, while hiding the existence of the
operation. In addition, may provide traffic mixing,
blending the user s traffic with traffic from multitudes
of users from outside the organization. This traffic
blending provides excellent cover and powerful deniability.
Anonymizer Enterprise Chameleon or equal
0003- Static IP Address Management.
:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D
50 each Licence protects the identity of government
agencies and enterprise organizations. Enables organizations
to manage their persistent online personas by assigning
static IP addresses to each persona. Individuals
can perform static impersonations, which allow
them to look like the same person over time. Also allows
organizations that frequent same site/service often to
easily switch IP addresses to look like ordinary
users as opposed to one organization.
Anonymizer IP Mapper License or equal
:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D
0004- Virtual Private Servers,
CONUS. 1 each Provides CONUS or OCONUS points of
presence locations that are setup for each customer
based on the geographic area of operations the
customer is operating within and which allow a
customer?s online persona(s) to appear to originate
from. Ability to provide virtual private servers that
are procured using commercial hosting centers around
the world and which are established anonymously. Once
procured, the geosite is incorporated into the network
and integrated within the customers environment and
ready for use by the customer. Unless specifically
designated as shared, locations are dedicated for use
by each customer and never shared among other customers.
Anonymizer Annual Dedicated CONUS Light Geosite or equal
0005- Virtual Private Servers, OCONUS.
8 Each Provides CONUS or OCONUS points of presence
locations that are setup for each customer based on
the geographic area of operations the customer is
operating within and which allow a customer?s
online persona(s) to appear toWas it related to drug abuse?
originate from. Ability to provide virtual private
servers that are procured using commercial hosting
centers around the world and which are established
anonymously. Once procured, the geosite is incorporated
into the network and integrated within the customers
environment and ready for use by the customer. Unless
specifically designated as shared, locations are dedicated
for use by each customer and never shared among other
customers. Anonymizer Annual Dedicated OCONUS Light ell troll, i
Geosite or equal
0006- Remote Access Secure Virtual Private Network.
1 each Secure Operating Environment provides a reliable
and protected computing environment from which to stage
and conduct operations. Every session uses a clean
Virtual Machine (VM) image. The solution is accessed
through sets of Virtual Private Network (VPN) devices
located at each Customer facility. The fully-managed
VDI (Virtual Desktop Infrastructure) is an environment
that allows users remote access from their desktop into
a VM. Upon session termination, the VM is deleted and
any virus, worm, or malicious software that the user
inadvertently downloaded is destroyed. Anonymizer
Virtual Desktop Infrastructure (VDI) Solution or equal.
2606 Brown Pelican Ave.
MacDill AFB, Florida 33621-5000
United States
Performance will be at MacDIll AFB, Kabul, Afghanistan and Baghdad, Iraq.
MacDill AFB , Florida 33679
United States
Russell Beasley,
Contracting Officer
Phone: (813) 828-4729
Fax: (813) 828-5111
Thank you for posting a deranged rant to Usenet. So
that we may better understand your problem, please
provide more information:


1. I post demented babble to Usenet because

[ ] The doctors think it's cathartic..
[ ] I can't help it -- it's the mind control beams.
[ ] The voices tell me to.
[ ] The Greys say if I stop, no more anal probes.
[ ] The world must know of the Evil Conspiracy.

2. I get my demented babble from

[ ] The patient in the next room, Albert Einstein.
[ ] Patterns concealed in crop circles.
[ ] Telepathic messages from the Ascended Master.
[ ] Jesus's face talking to me from a piece of toast.
[ ] My dog, Sam.

3. When not posting demented babble, I usually

[ ] Get drunk/do drugs.
[ ] Clean my AK-47.
[ ] Masturbate.
[ ] Get drunk/do drugs, clean my AK-47, and masturbate.
[ ] Wander the streets and sleep under overpasses.
[ ] Just bounce my head against the rubber wall here.

4. My posting style is distinguished by

[ ] Insults in ALL CAPS, YOU ASSHOLES.
[ ] Just general illiteracy and incoherence.
[ ] "Quotation" "marks" "everywhere."
[ ] Comments to my imaginary friends.
[ ] References to myself in the third person.
[ ] References to myself in the Royal Plural.

5. I must tell the world that (check all that apply)

[ ] The Moon landings were a vast conspiracy.
[ ] 9/11 was a vast conspiracy.
[ ] Evolution is a vast conspiracy.
[ ] Global warming is a vast conspiracy.
[ ] Relativity is a vast conspiracy.
[ ] It's ALL a vast conspiracy. All of it. Everything.

6. The greatest genius of all time was/is

[ ] Nostradamus.
[ ] Mary Baker Eddy.
[ ] Nikola Tesla.
[ ] L. Ron Hubbard.
[ ] Me, of course.

7. I am being persecuted by (check all that apply)

[ ] The Trilateral Commission.
[ ] The science/math establishment.
[ ] The doctors here.
[ ] The Reptoids.
[ ] People who laugh at me on Usenet.
[ ] The world.
--
Bill Snyder [This space unintentionally left blank]
Daniel who wants to know
2012-02-12 03:14:37 UTC
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Raw Message
Post by Bill Snyder
7. I am being persecuted by (check all that apply)
[ ] The Trilateral Commission.
[ ] The science/math establishment.
[ ] The doctors here.
[ ] The Reptoids.
[ ] People who laugh at me on Usenet.
[ ] The world.
[ ] MI5/MI6.

You forgot one lol.
Bill Snyder
2012-02-12 22:41:35 UTC
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Raw Message
On Sat, 11 Feb 2012 21:14:37 -0600, "Daniel who wants to know"
Post by Daniel who wants to know
Post by Bill Snyder
7. I am being persecuted by (check all that apply)
[ ] The Trilateral Commission.
[ ] The science/math establishment.
[ ] The doctors here.
[ ] The Reptoids.
[ ] People who laugh at me on Usenet.
[ ] The world.
[ ] MI5/MI6.
You forgot one lol.
Good point. I'd forgotten that particular loon; future versions
of the form will allow the subject to specify the intelligence
agency or agencies of his choice.
--
Bill Snyder [This space unintentionally left blank]
7
2012-02-12 23:53:44 UTC
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Raw Message
Post by Bill Snyder
Good point. I'd forgotten that particular loon
Sounds like you know all about loons.
It takes one to know one as they say troll, but
don't let that stop you.



Trolling is an Industry in USA
------------------------------

Most US politicians and businesses
are so corrupt and reliant to the point of addiction
on trolls and trolling and so the fund it all illegally
through charities because
funding through charities is untraceable
through loopholes in US law.

The US politicians, embassy staff and anyone else falling for it like
Spanish government should know that the US trolls
ordering embassies to this kind of work
have no mandate for these kinds of activities.

Just rich companies that have bank rolled teams of asstroturfers
to create fake support and certainly no mandate.

There is NO MANDATE when fake asstroturfers are driving
the agenda.

The situation is so bad, it has spread into the military.
No one now knows who drives what agenda because
there is no traceability.

The fscking military, politicians, enviro nuts, music maffia,
using asstroturfing technology need the riot act read to them.

The situation is so incomprehensible that
the US has been declared falsely that it is the most charitable nation in
the world when at the same time 3 million US families
are living in shelter, and most of that charity money is fake
money being diverted from corporations into the coffers of asstroturfing
and PR companies.

Most of the money funneled through
charities never make it to charitable causes in the USA.
It is stolen by politicians and pressure groups to cover
up their fake funding routes for asstroturfing.
They are used to it so we got to get over it?

No thanks!!!!

Not a single politician, embassy staff or military has a
mandate for one single political agenda because no one
knows who is funding who and who's agenda is real
and whose agenda is fake. Every signature collected
is one more fake signature for a mandate written out by
asstroturfers.

Asstroturfing through charities undermines society,
and all the nations dealing with US
and it must stop because no one in US has any legitimate
mandates for any of this activity any more.

If they have it, then should display their mandate
with pride, and show where the support had come from
and if any of it is through charities, then the
whole mandate is faked because charity status is being
abused to hide funding routes for corporate asstroturfing.



Asstroturfer offerings
----------------------


I've just read the contents of the fbo.gov solicitation RTB220610

The US government wants asstroturfers and with it sophisticated
asstroturfing technology to drown out democratic free speech,
and then hide from those whom it seeks to victimize.

It was point no.3 that caught my eye:
0003- Static IP Address Management

What that means is the same as what I've been saying for a while about
doofi, flatcake and clog are true.

They are not individuals but a whole asstroturfing team
behind each sock puppet.

There isn't enough memory between the sock operators to know
or remember what had been said earlier so you know the
conversations are being typed out by multiple individuals
impersonating each other.
It was notable gaffs by the goofy doofy sock that first gave it away.

The asstrotufing teams had already gone into government and offered them
consulting services about what technology and asstroturfing
practices were out there for fbo.gov to decide what they will
purchase in solicitation RTB220610.


:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D



https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=d88e9d660336be91552fe8c1a51bacb2&tab=core&_cview=1

Solicitation Number: RTB220610
Notice Type: Sources Sought
Synopsis: Added: 2010-06-22 13:42:52Jun 22, 2010 1:42 pm
Modified: 2010-06-22 14:07:11Jun 22, 2010 2:07 pmTrack Changes

0001- Online Persona Management Service.

50 User Licenses, 10 Personas per user. Software will
allow 10 personas per user, replete with background,
history, supporting details, and cyber presences
that are technically, culturally and geographacilly
consistent. Individual applications will enable an
operator to exercise a number of different online
persons from the same workstation and without fear
of being discovered by sophisticated adversaries.
Personas must be able to appear to originate in
nearly any part of the world and can interact through
conventional online services and social media platforms.
The service includes a user friendly application
environment to maximize the user's situational
awareness by displaying real-time local information.


0002- Secure Virtual Private Network (VPN).

1 each VPN provides the ability for users to
daily and automatically obtain
randomly selected IP addresses through
which they can access the internet. The daily
rotation of the user s IP address prevents compromise
during observation of likely or targeted web sites
or services, while hiding the existence of the
operation. In addition, may provide traffic mixing,
blending the user s traffic with traffic from multitudes
of users from outside the organization. This traffic
blending provides excellent cover and powerful deniability.
Anonymizer Enterprise Chameleon or equal


0003- Static IP Address Management.


:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D


50 each Licence protects the identity of government
agencies and enterprise organizations. Enables organizations
to manage their persistent online personas by assigning
static IP addresses to each persona. Individuals
can perform static impersonations, which allow
them to look like the same person over time. Also allows
organizations that frequent same site/service often to
easily switch IP addresses to look like ordinary
users as opposed to one organization.
Anonymizer IP Mapper License or equal

:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D


0004- Virtual Private Servers,

CONUS. 1 each Provides CONUS or OCONUS points of
presence locations that are setup for each customer
based on the geographic area of operations the
customer is operating within and which allow a
customer?s online persona(s) to appear to originate
from. Ability to provide virtual private servers that
are procured using commercial hosting centers around
the world and which are established anonymously. Once
procured, the geosite is incorporated into the network
and integrated within the customers environment and
ready for use by the customer. Unless specifically
designated as shared, locations are dedicated for use
by each customer and never shared among other customers.
Anonymizer Annual Dedicated CONUS Light Geosite or equal


0005- Virtual Private Servers, OCONUS.

8 Each Provides CONUS or OCONUS points of presence
locations that are setup for each customer based on
the geographic area of operations the customer is
operating within and which allow a customer?s
online persona(s) to appear toWas it related to drug abuse?

originate from. Ability to provide virtual private
servers that are procured using commercial hosting
centers around the world and which are established
anonymously. Once procured, the geosite is incorporated
into the network and integrated within the customers
environment and ready for use by the customer. Unless
specifically designated as shared, locations are dedicated
for use by each customer and never shared among other
customers. Anonymizer Annual Dedicated OCONUS Light ell troll, i
Geosite or equal


0006- Remote Access Secure Virtual Private Network.

1 each Secure Operating Environment provides a reliable
and protected computing environment from which to stage
and conduct operations. Every session uses a clean
Virtual Machine (VM) image. The solution is accessed
through sets of Virtual Private Network (VPN) devices
located at each Customer facility. The fully-managed
VDI (Virtual Desktop Infrastructure) is an environment
that allows users remote access from their desktop into
a VM. Upon session termination, the VM is deleted and
any virus, worm, or malicious software that the user
inadvertently downloaded is destroyed. Anonymizer
Virtual Desktop Infrastructure (VDI) Solution or equal.


Contracting Office Address:
2606 Brown Pelican Ave.
MacDill AFB, Florida 33621-5000
United States
Lets start this troll interrogation again:
Place of Performance:
Performance will be at MacDIll AFB, Kabul, Afghanistan and Baghdad, Iraq.
MacDill AFB , Florida 33679
United States

Primary Point of Contact.:
Russell Beasley,
Contracting Officer
russell.beasley-***@macdill.af.mil
Phone: (813) 828-4729
Fax: (813) 828-5111
7
2012-02-12 20:19:56 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
Post by Bill Snyder
Thank you for posting
Thank you for reading.

Standard practice for paid trolls to engage a newsgroup
to kill discussion to buy time.

The question is who is paying and why.

If US government agencies got involved (which they did),
then its always someone attached to their funding sources trying
to make sure everyone else doesn't have a forum
for discussions:

Sadly for them, they did not get ahead because in their
mad bid to get ahead, they killed discussion.



Trolling is an Industry in USA
------------------------------

Most US politicians and businesses
are so corrupt and reliant to the point of addiction
on trolls and trolling and so the fund it all illegally
through charities because
funding through charities is untraceable
through loopholes in US law.

The US politicians, embassy staff and anyone else falling for it like
Spanish government should know that the US trolls
ordering embassies to this kind of work
have no mandate for these kinds of activities.

Just rich companies that have bank rolled teams of asstroturfers
to create fake support and certainly no mandate.

There is NO MANDATE when fake asstroturfers are driving
the agenda.

The situation is so bad, it has spread into the military.
No one now knows who drives what agenda because
there is no traceability.

The fscking military, politicians, enviro nuts, music maffia,
using asstroturfing technology need the riot act read to them.

The situation is so incomprehensible that
the US has been declared falsely that it is the most charitable nation in
the world when at the same time 3 million US families
are living in shelter, and most of that charity money is fake
money being diverted from corporations into the coffers of asstroturfing
and PR companies.

Most of the money funneled through
charities never make it to charitable causes in the USA.
It is stolen by politicians and pressure groups to cover
up their fake funding routes for asstroturfing.
They are used to it so we got to get over it?

No thanks!!!!

Not a single politician, embassy staff or military has a
mandate for one single political agenda because no one
knows who is funding who and who's agenda is real
and whose agenda is fake. Every signature collected
is one more fake signature for a mandate written out by
asstroturfers.

Asstroturfing through charities undermines society,
and all the nations dealing with US
and it must stop because no one in US has any legitimate
mandates for any of this activity any more.

If they have it, then should display their mandate
with pride, and show where the support had come from
and if any of it is through charities, then the
whole mandate is faked because charity status is being
abused to hide funding routes for corporate asstroturfing.



Asstroturfer offerings
----------------------


I've just read the contents of the fbo.gov solicitation RTB220610

The US government wants asstroturfers and with it sophisticated
asstroturfing technology to drown out democratic free speech,
and then hide from those whom it seeks to victimize.

It was point no.3 that caught my eye:
0003- Static IP Address Management

What that means is the same as what I've been saying for a while about
doofi, flatcake and clog are true.

They are not individuals but a whole asstroturfing team
behind each sock puppet.

There isn't enough memory between the sock operators to know
or remember what had been said earlier so you know the
conversations are being typed out by multiple individuals
impersonating each other.
It was notable gaffs by the goofy doofy sock that first gave it away.

The asstrotufing teams had already gone into government and offered them
consulting services about what technology and asstroturfing
practices were out there for fbo.gov to decide what they will
purchase in solicitation RTB220610.


:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D



https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=d88e9d660336be91552fe8c1a51bacb2&tab=core&_cview=1

Solicitation Number: RTB220610
Notice Type: Sources Sought
Synopsis: Added: 2010-06-22 13:42:52Jun 22, 2010 1:42 pm
Modified: 2010-06-22 14:07:11Jun 22, 2010 2:07 pmTrack Changes

0001- Online Persona Management Service.

50 User Licenses, 10 Personas per user. Software will
allow 10 personas per user, replete with background,
history, supporting details, and cyber presences
that are technically, culturally and geographacilly
consistent. Individual applications will enable an
operator to exercise a number of different online
persons from the same workstation and without fear
of being discovered by sophisticated adversaries.
Personas must be able to appear to originate in
nearly any part of the world and can interact through
conventional online services and social media platforms.
The service includes a user friendly application
environment to maximize the user's situational
awareness by displaying real-time local information.


0002- Secure Virtual Private Network (VPN).

1 each VPN provides the ability for users to
daily and automatically obtain
randomly selected IP addresses through
which they can access the internet. The daily
rotation of the user s IP address prevents compromise
during observation of likely or targeted web sites
or services, while hiding the existence of the
operation. In addition, may provide traffic mixing,
blending the user s traffic with traffic from multitudes
of users from outside the organization. This traffic
blending provides excellent cover and powerful deniability.
Anonymizer Enterprise Chameleon or equal


0003- Static IP Address Management.


:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D


50 each Licence protects the identity of government
agencies and enterprise organizations. Enables organizations
to manage their persistent online personas by assigning
static IP addresses to each persona. Individuals
can perform static impersonations, which allow
them to look like the same person over time. Also allows
organizations that frequent same site/service often to
easily switch IP addresses to look like ordinary
users as opposed to one organization.
Anonymizer IP Mapper License or equal

:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D


0004- Virtual Private Servers,

CONUS. 1 each Provides CONUS or OCONUS points of
presence locations that are setup for each customer
based on the geographic area of operations the
customer is operating within and which allow a
customer?s online persona(s) to appear to originate
from. Ability to provide virtual private servers that
are procured using commercial hosting centers around
the world and which are established anonymously. Once
procured, the geosite is incorporated into the network
and integrated within the customers environment and
ready for use by the customer. Unless specifically
designated as shared, locations are dedicated for use
by each customer and never shared among other customers.
Anonymizer Annual Dedicated CONUS Light Geosite or equal


0005- Virtual Private Servers, OCONUS.

8 Each Provides CONUS or OCONUS points of presence
locations that are setup for each customer based on
the geographic area of operations the customer is
operating within and which allow a customer?s
online persona(s) to appear toWas it related to drug abuse?

originate from. Ability to provide virtual private
servers that are procured using commercial hosting
centers around the world and which are established
anonymously. Once procured, the geosite is incorporated
into the network and integrated within the customers
environment and ready for use by the customer. Unless
specifically designated as shared, locations are dedicated
for use by each customer and never shared among other
customers. Anonymizer Annual Dedicated OCONUS Light ell troll, i
Geosite or equal


0006- Remote Access Secure Virtual Private Network.

1 each Secure Operating Environment provides a reliable
and protected computing environment from which to stage
and conduct operations. Every session uses a clean
Virtual Machine (VM) image. The solution is accessed
through sets of Virtual Private Network (VPN) devices
located at each Customer facility. The fully-managed
VDI (Virtual Desktop Infrastructure) is an environment
that allows users remote access from their desktop into
a VM. Upon session termination, the VM is deleted and
any virus, worm, or malicious software that the user
inadvertently downloaded is destroyed. Anonymizer
Virtual Desktop Infrastructure (VDI) Solution or equal.


Contracting Office Address:
2606 Brown Pelican Ave.
MacDill AFB, Florida 33621-5000
United States
Lets start this troll interrogation again:
Place of Performance:
Performance will be at MacDIll AFB, Kabul, Afghanistan and Baghdad, Iraq.
MacDill AFB , Florida 33679
United States

Primary Point of Contact.:
Russell Beasley,
Contracting Officer
russell.beasley-***@macdill.af.mil
Phone: (813) 828-4729
Fax: (813) 828-5111
Marvin the Martian
2012-02-12 21:18:09 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
Post by 7
Post by Bill Snyder
Thank you for posting
Thank you for reading.
Standard practice for paid trolls to engage a newsgroup to kill
discussion to buy time.
The question is who is paying and why.
If US government agencies got involved (which they did), then its always
someone attached to their funding sources trying to make sure everyone
Sadly for them, they did not get ahead because in their mad bid to get
ahead, they killed discussion.
Trolling is an Industry in USA
I don't disagree. Hot fusion is big business in physics academia.
Certainly some of them tried to kill the discussion.

Once you realize that cold fusion can be used to make a nuclear bomb that
is undetectable like fission bombs, then you realize why there is a
government disinformation campaign.
Bill Snyder
2012-02-12 22:55:23 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 15:18:09 -0600, Marvin the Martian
Post by Marvin the Martian
Post by 7
Post by Bill Snyder
Thank you for posting
Thank you for reading.
Standard practice for paid trolls to engage a newsgroup to kill
discussion to buy time.
The question is who is paying and why.
If US government agencies got involved (which they did), then its always
someone attached to their funding sources trying to make sure everyone
Sadly for them, they did not get ahead because in their mad bid to get
ahead, they killed discussion.
Trolling is an Industry in USA
I don't disagree. Hot fusion is big business in physics academia.
Certainly some of them tried to kill the discussion.
Once you realize that cold fusion can be used to make a nuclear bomb that
is undetectable like fission bombs, then you realize why there is a
government disinformation campaign.
Once you realize that Marvin and 7 are bugfuck insane, then you
realize why they keep posting about massive conspiracies to
suppress an imaginary phenomenon. Maybe they should be trying to
counter the "government disinformation" on N-Rays, too.
--
Bill Snyder [This space unintentionally left blank]
7
2012-02-12 23:49:19 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
Post by Bill Snyder
On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 15:18:09 -0600, Marvin the Martian
Post by Marvin the Martian
Post by 7
Post by Bill Snyder
Thank you for posting
Thank you for reading.
Standard practice for paid trolls to engage a newsgroup to kill
discussion to buy time.
The question is who is paying and why.
If US government agencies got involved (which they did), then its always
someone attached to their funding sources trying to make sure everyone
Sadly for them, they did not get ahead because in their mad bid to get
ahead, they killed discussion.
Trolling is an Industry in USA
I don't disagree. Hot fusion is big business in physics academia.
Certainly some of them tried to kill the discussion.
Once you realize that cold fusion can be used to make a nuclear bomb that
is undetectable like fission bombs, then you realize why there is a
government disinformation campaign.
O
Once you realize that Bill Snyder is bugfuck insane, then you
realize why the troll keep posting.


Trolling is an Industry in USA
------------------------------

Most US politicians and businesses
are so corrupt and reliant to the point of addiction
on trolls and trolling and so the fund it all illegally
through charities because
funding through charities is untraceable
through loopholes in US law.

The US politicians, embassy staff and anyone else falling for it like
Spanish government should know that the US trolls
ordering embassies to this kind of work
have no mandate for these kinds of activities.

Just rich companies that have bank rolled teams of asstroturfers
to create fake support and certainly no mandate.

There is NO MANDATE when fake asstroturfers are driving
the agenda.

The situation is so bad, it has spread into the military.
No one now knows who drives what agenda because
there is no traceability.

The fscking military, politicians, enviro nuts, music maffia,
using asstroturfing technology need the riot act read to them.

The situation is so incomprehensible that
the US has been declared falsely that it is the most charitable nation in
the world when at the same time 3 million US families
are living in shelter, and most of that charity money is fake
money being diverted from corporations into the coffers of asstroturfing
and PR companies.

Most of the money funneled through
charities never make it to charitable causes in the USA.
It is stolen by politicians and pressure groups to cover
up their fake funding routes for asstroturfing.
They are used to it so we got to get over it?

No thanks!!!!

Not a single politician, embassy staff or military has a
mandate for one single political agenda because no one
knows who is funding who and who's agenda is real
and whose agenda is fake. Every signature collected
is one more fake signature for a mandate written out by
asstroturfers.

Asstroturfing through charities undermines society,
and all the nations dealing with US
and it must stop because no one in US has any legitimate
mandates for any of this activity any more.

If they have it, then should display their mandate
with pride, and show where the support had come from
and if any of it is through charities, then the
whole mandate is faked because charity status is being
abused to hide funding routes for corporate asstroturfing.



Asstroturfer offerings
----------------------


I've just read the contents of the fbo.gov solicitation RTB220610

The US government wants asstroturfers and with it sophisticated
asstroturfing technology to drown out democratic free speech,
and then hide from those whom it seeks to victimize.

It was point no.3 that caught my eye:
0003- Static IP Address Management

What that means is the same as what I've been saying for a while about
doofi, flatcake and clog are true.

They are not individuals but a whole asstroturfing team
behind each sock puppet.

There isn't enough memory between the sock operators to know
or remember what had been said earlier so you know the
conversations are being typed out by multiple individuals
impersonating each other.
It was notable gaffs by the goofy doofy sock that first gave it away.

The asstrotufing teams had already gone into government and offered them
consulting services about what technology and asstroturfing
practices were out there for fbo.gov to decide what they will
purchase in solicitation RTB220610.


:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D



https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=d88e9d660336be91552fe8c1a51bacb2&tab=core&_cview=1

Solicitation Number: RTB220610
Notice Type: Sources Sought
Synopsis: Added: 2010-06-22 13:42:52Jun 22, 2010 1:42 pm
Modified: 2010-06-22 14:07:11Jun 22, 2010 2:07 pmTrack Changes

0001- Online Persona Management Service.

50 User Licenses, 10 Personas per user. Software will
allow 10 personas per user, replete with background,
history, supporting details, and cyber presences
that are technically, culturally and geographacilly
consistent. Individual applications will enable an
operator to exercise a number of different online
persons from the same workstation and without fear
of being discovered by sophisticated adversaries.
Personas must be able to appear to originate in
nearly any part of the world and can interact through
conventional online services and social media platforms.
The service includes a user friendly application
environment to maximize the user's situational
awareness by displaying real-time local information.


0002- Secure Virtual Private Network (VPN).

1 each VPN provides the ability for users to
daily and automatically obtain
randomly selected IP addresses through
which they can access the internet. The daily
rotation of the user s IP address prevents compromise
during observation of likely or targeted web sites
or services, while hiding the existence of the
operation. In addition, may provide traffic mixing,
blending the user s traffic with traffic from multitudes
of users from outside the organization. This traffic
blending provides excellent cover and powerful deniability.
Anonymizer Enterprise Chameleon or equal


0003- Static IP Address Management.


:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D


50 each Licence protects the identity of government
agencies and enterprise organizations. Enables organizations
to manage their persistent online personas by assigning
static IP addresses to each persona. Individuals
can perform static impersonations, which allow
them to look like the same person over time. Also allows
organizations that frequent same site/service often to
easily switch IP addresses to look like ordinary
users as opposed to one organization.
Anonymizer IP Mapper License or equal

:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D


0004- Virtual Private Servers,

CONUS. 1 each Provides CONUS or OCONUS points of
presence locations that are setup for each customer
based on the geographic area of operations the
customer is operating within and which allow a
customer?s online persona(s) to appear to originate
from. Ability to provide virtual private servers that
are procured using commercial hosting centers around
the world and which are established anonymously. Once
procured, the geosite is incorporated into the network
and integrated within the customers environment and
ready for use by the customer. Unless specifically
designated as shared, locations are dedicated for use
by each customer and never shared among other customers.
Anonymizer Annual Dedicated CONUS Light Geosite or equal


0005- Virtual Private Servers, OCONUS.

8 Each Provides CONUS or OCONUS points of presence
locations that are setup for each customer based on
the geographic area of operations the customer is
operating within and which allow a customer?s
online persona(s) to appear toWas it related to drug abuse?

originate from. Ability to provide virtual private
servers that are procured using commercial hosting
centers around the world and which are established
anonymously. Once procured, the geosite is incorporated
into the network and integrated within the customers
environment and ready for use by the customer. Unless
specifically designated as shared, locations are dedicated
for use by each customer and never shared among other
customers. Anonymizer Annual Dedicated OCONUS Light ell troll, i
Geosite or equal


0006- Remote Access Secure Virtual Private Network.

1 each Secure Operating Environment provides a reliable
and protected computing environment from which to stage
and conduct operations. Every session uses a clean
Virtual Machine (VM) image. The solution is accessed
through sets of Virtual Private Network (VPN) devices
located at each Customer facility. The fully-managed
VDI (Virtual Desktop Infrastructure) is an environment
that allows users remote access from their desktop into
a VM. Upon session termination, the VM is deleted and
any virus, worm, or malicious software that the user
inadvertently downloaded is destroyed. Anonymizer
Virtual Desktop Infrastructure (VDI) Solution or equal.


Contracting Office Address:
2606 Brown Pelican Ave.
MacDill AFB, Florida 33621-5000
United States
Lets start this troll interrogation again:
Place of Performance:
Performance will be at MacDIll AFB, Kabul, Afghanistan and Baghdad, Iraq.
MacDill AFB , Florida 33679
United States

Primary Point of Contact.:
Russell Beasley,
Contracting Officer
russell.beasley-***@macdill.af.mil
Phone: (813) 828-4729
Fax: (813) 828-5111
Bill Snyder
2012-02-12 23:56:20 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 23:49:19 +0000, 7
Post by Bill Snyder
On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 15:18:09 -0600, Marvin the Martian
Post by Marvin the Martian
Post by 7
Post by Bill Snyder
Thank you for posting
Thank you for reading.
Standard practice for paid trolls to engage a newsgroup to kill
discussion to buy time.
The question is who is paying and why.
If US government agencies got involved (which they did), then its always
someone attached to their funding sources trying to make sure everyone
Sadly for them, they did not get ahead because in their mad bid to get
ahead, they killed discussion.
Trolling is an Industry in USA
I don't disagree. Hot fusion is big business in physics academia.
Certainly some of them tried to kill the discussion.
Once you realize that cold fusion can be used to make a nuclear bomb that
is undetectable like fission bombs, then you realize why there is a
government disinformation campaign.
[repeated drool snipped]

Thank you for posting a deranged rant to Usenet. So
that we may better understand your problem, please
provide more information:


1. I post demented babble to Usenet because

[ ] The doctors think it's cathartic..
[ ] I can't help it -- it's the mind control beams.
[ ] The voices tell me to.
[ ] The Greys say if I stop, no more anal probes.
[ ] The world must know of the Evil Conspiracy.

2. I get my demented babble from

[ ] The Plutonium atom in my brain.
[ ] The patient in the next room, Albert Einstein.
[ ] Patterns concealed in crop circles.
[ ] Telepathic messages from the Ascended Master.
[ ] Jesus's face talking to me from a piece of toast.
[ ] My dog, Sam.
[ ] Other (specify) __________________________

3. When not posting demented babble, I usually

[ ] Get drunk/do drugs.
[ ] Clean my AK-47.
[ ] Masturbate.
[ ] Get drunk/do drugs, clean my AK-47, and masturbate.
[ ] Wander the streets and sleep under overpasses.
[ ] Just bounce my head against the rubber wall here.

4. My posting style is distinguished by

[ ] Insults in ALL CAPS, YOU ASSHOLES.
[ ] Just general illiteracy and incoherence.
[ ] "Quotation" "marks" "everywhere."
[ ] Comments to my imaginary friends.
[ ] References to myself in the third person.
[ ] References to myself in the Royal Plural.

5. I must tell the world that (check all that apply)

[ ] The Moon landings were a vast conspiracy.
[ ] 9/11 was a vast conspiracy.
[ ] Evolution is a vast conspiracy.
[ ] Global warming is a vast conspiracy.
[ ] Relativity is a vast conspiracy.
[ ] It's ALL a vast conspiracy. All of it. Everything.

6. The greatest genius of all time was/is

[ ] Nostradamus.
[ ] Mary Baker Eddy.
[ ] Nikola Tesla.
[ ] L. Ron Hubbard.
[ ] Me, of course.

7. I am being persecuted by (check all that apply)

[ ] The Trilateral Commission.
[ ] Spy agency (specify) _________________
[ ] The science/math establishment.
[ ] The doctors here.
[ ] The Reptoids.
[ ] People who laugh at me on Usenet.
[ ] The entire world.
--
Bill Snyder [This space unintentionally left blank]
7
2012-02-13 00:22:01 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
Post by Bill Snyder
Post by Marvin the Martian
Post by 7
Post by Bill Snyder
Thank you for posting
Thank you for reading.
Standard practice for paid trolls to engage a newsgroup to kill
discussion to buy time.
The question is who is paying and why.
If US government agencies got involved (which they did), then its
always someone attached to their funding sources trying to make sure
Sadly for them, they did not get ahead because in their mad bid to get
ahead, they killed discussion.
Trolling is an Industry in USA
I don't disagree. Hot fusion is big business in physics academia.
Certainly some of them tried to kill the discussion.
Once you realize that cold fusion can be used to make a nuclear bomb
that is undetectable like fission bombs, then you realize why there is a
government disinformation campaign.
Thank you for posting
Thank you for reading, and posting your repeated trolls
to let everyone know what you are a repeatedly proven troll.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!




Trolling is an Industry in USA
------------------------------

Most US politicians and businesses
are so corrupt and reliant to the point of addiction
on trolls and trolling and so the fund it all illegally
through charities because
funding through charities is untraceable
through loopholes in US law.

The US politicians, embassy staff and anyone else falling for it like
Spanish government should know that the US trolls
ordering embassies to this kind of work
have no mandate for these kinds of activities.

Just rich companies that have bank rolled teams of asstroturfers
to create fake support and certainly no mandate.

There is NO MANDATE when fake asstroturfers are driving
the agenda.

The situation is so bad, it has spread into the military.
No one now knows who drives what agenda because
there is no traceability.

The fscking military, politicians, enviro nuts, music maffia,
using asstroturfing technology need the riot act read to them.

The situation is so incomprehensible that
the US has been declared falsely that it is the most charitable nation in
the world when at the same time 3 million US families
are living in shelter, and most of that charity money is fake
money being diverted from corporations into the coffers of asstroturfing
and PR companies.

Most of the money funneled through
charities never make it to charitable causes in the USA.
It is stolen by politicians and pressure groups to cover
up their fake funding routes for asstroturfing.
They are used to it so we got to get over it?

No thanks!!!!

Not a single politician, embassy staff or military has a
mandate for one single political agenda because no one
knows who is funding who and who's agenda is real
and whose agenda is fake. Every signature collected
is one more fake signature for a mandate written out by
asstroturfers.

Asstroturfing through charities undermines society,
and all the nations dealing with US
and it must stop because no one in US has any legitimate
mandates for any of this activity any more.

If they have it, then should display their mandate
with pride, and show where the support had come from
and if any of it is through charities, then the
whole mandate is faked because charity status is being
abused to hide funding routes for corporate asstroturfing.



Asstroturfer offerings
----------------------


I've just read the contents of the fbo.gov solicitation RTB220610

The US government wants asstroturfers and with it sophisticated
asstroturfing technology to drown out democratic free speech,
and then hide from those whom it seeks to victimize.

It was point no.3 that caught my eye:
0003- Static IP Address Management

What that means is the same as what I've been saying for a while about
doofi, flatcake and clog are true.

They are not individuals but a whole asstroturfing team
behind each sock puppet.

There isn't enough memory between the sock operators to know
or remember what had been said earlier so you know the
conversations are being typed out by multiple individuals
impersonating each other.
It was notable gaffs by the goofy doofy sock that first gave it away.

The asstrotufing teams had already gone into government and offered them
consulting services about what technology and asstroturfing
practices were out there for fbo.gov to decide what they will
purchase in solicitation RTB220610.


:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D



https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=d88e9d660336be91552fe8c1a51bacb2&tab=core&_cview=1

Solicitation Number: RTB220610
Notice Type: Sources Sought
Synopsis: Added: 2010-06-22 13:42:52Jun 22, 2010 1:42 pm
Modified: 2010-06-22 14:07:11Jun 22, 2010 2:07 pmTrack Changes

0001- Online Persona Management Service.

50 User Licenses, 10 Personas per user. Software will
allow 10 personas per user, replete with background,
history, supporting details, and cyber presences
that are technically, culturally and geographacilly
consistent. Individual applications will enable an
operator to exercise a number of different online
persons from the same workstation and without fear
of being discovered by sophisticated adversaries.
Personas must be able to appear to originate in
nearly any part of the world and can interact through
conventional online services and social media platforms.
The service includes a user friendly application
environment to maximize the user's situational
awareness by displaying real-time local information.


0002- Secure Virtual Private Network (VPN).

1 each VPN provides the ability for users to
daily and automatically obtain
randomly selected IP addresses through
which they can access the internet. The daily
rotation of the user s IP address prevents compromise
during observation of likely or targeted web sites
or services, while hiding the existence of the
operation. In addition, may provide traffic mixing,
blending the user s traffic with traffic from multitudes
of users from outside the organization. This traffic
blending provides excellent cover and powerful deniability.
Anonymizer Enterprise Chameleon or equal


0003- Static IP Address Management.


:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D


50 each Licence protects the identity of government
agencies and enterprise organizations. Enables organizations
to manage their persistent online personas by assigning
static IP addresses to each persona. Individuals
can perform static impersonations, which allow
them to look like the same person over time. Also allows
organizations that frequent same site/service often to
easily switch IP addresses to look like ordinary
users as opposed to one organization.
Anonymizer IP Mapper License or equal

:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D


0004- Virtual Private Servers,

CONUS. 1 each Provides CONUS or OCONUS points of
presence locations that are setup for each customer
based on the geographic area of operations the
customer is operating within and which allow a
customer?s online persona(s) to appear to originate
from. Ability to provide virtual private servers that
are procured using commercial hosting centers around
the world and which are established anonymously. Once
procured, the geosite is incorporated into the network
and integrated within the customers environment and
ready for use by the customer. Unless specifically
designated as shared, locations are dedicated for use
by each customer and never shared among other customers.
Anonymizer Annual Dedicated CONUS Light Geosite or equal


0005- Virtual Private Servers, OCONUS.

8 Each Provides CONUS or OCONUS points of presence
locations that are setup for each customer based on
the geographic area of operations the customer is
operating within and which allow a customer?s
online persona(s) to appear toWas it related to drug abuse?

originate from. Ability to provide virtual private
servers that are procured using commercial hosting
centers around the world and which are established
anonymously. Once procured, the geosite is incorporated
into the network and integrated within the customers
environment and ready for use by the customer. Unless
specifically designated as shared, locations are dedicated
for use by each customer and never shared among other
customers. Anonymizer Annual Dedicated OCONUS Light ell troll, i
Geosite or equal


0006- Remote Access Secure Virtual Private Network.

1 each Secure Operating Environment provides a reliable
and protected computing environment from which to stage
and conduct operations. Every session uses a clean
Virtual Machine (VM) image. The solution is accessed
through sets of Virtual Private Network (VPN) devices
located at each Customer facility. The fully-managed
VDI (Virtual Desktop Infrastructure) is an environment
that allows users remote access from their desktop into
a VM. Upon session termination, the VM is deleted and
any virus, worm, or malicious software that the user
inadvertently downloaded is destroyed. Anonymizer
Virtual Desktop Infrastructure (VDI) Solution or equal.


Contracting Office Address:
2606 Brown Pelican Ave.
MacDill AFB, Florida 33621-5000
United States
Lets start this troll interrogation again:
Place of Performance:
Performance will be at MacDIll AFB, Kabul, Afghanistan and Baghdad, Iraq.
MacDill AFB , Florida 33679
United States

Primary Point of Contact.:
Russell Beasley,
Contracting Officer
russell.beasley-***@macdill.af.mil
Phone: (813) 828-4729
Fax: (813) 828-5111
7
2012-02-13 00:22:01 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
Post by Bill Snyder
Post by Marvin the Martian
Post by 7
Post by Bill Snyder
Thank you for posting
Thank you for reading.
Standard practice for paid trolls to engage a newsgroup to kill
discussion to buy time.
The question is who is paying and why.
If US government agencies got involved (which they did), then its
always someone attached to their funding sources trying to make sure
Sadly for them, they did not get ahead because in their mad bid to get
ahead, they killed discussion.
Trolling is an Industry in USA
I don't disagree. Hot fusion is big business in physics academia.
Certainly some of them tried to kill the discussion.
Once you realize that cold fusion can be used to make a nuclear bomb
that is undetectable like fission bombs, then you realize why there is a
government disinformation campaign.
Thank you for posting
Thank you for reading, and posting your repeated trolls
to let everyone know what you are a repeatedly proven troll.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!




Trolling is an Industry in USA
------------------------------

Most US politicians and businesses
are so corrupt and reliant to the point of addiction
on trolls and trolling and so the fund it all illegally
through charities because
funding through charities is untraceable
through loopholes in US law.

The US politicians, embassy staff and anyone else falling for it like
Spanish government should know that the US trolls
ordering embassies to this kind of work
have no mandate for these kinds of activities.

Just rich companies that have bank rolled teams of asstroturfers
to create fake support and certainly no mandate.

There is NO MANDATE when fake asstroturfers are driving
the agenda.

The situation is so bad, it has spread into the military.
No one now knows who drives what agenda because
there is no traceability.

The fscking military, politicians, enviro nuts, music maffia,
using asstroturfing technology need the riot act read to them.

The situation is so incomprehensible that
the US has been declared falsely that it is the most charitable nation in
the world when at the same time 3 million US families
are living in shelter, and most of that charity money is fake
money being diverted from corporations into the coffers of asstroturfing
and PR companies.

Most of the money funneled through
charities never make it to charitable causes in the USA.
It is stolen by politicians and pressure groups to cover
up their fake funding routes for asstroturfing.
They are used to it so we got to get over it?

No thanks!!!!

Not a single politician, embassy staff or military has a
mandate for one single political agenda because no one
knows who is funding who and who's agenda is real
and whose agenda is fake. Every signature collected
is one more fake signature for a mandate written out by
asstroturfers.

Asstroturfing through charities undermines society,
and all the nations dealing with US
and it must stop because no one in US has any legitimate
mandates for any of this activity any more.

If they have it, then should display their mandate
with pride, and show where the support had come from
and if any of it is through charities, then the
whole mandate is faked because charity status is being
abused to hide funding routes for corporate asstroturfing.



Asstroturfer offerings
----------------------


I've just read the contents of the fbo.gov solicitation RTB220610

The US government wants asstroturfers and with it sophisticated
asstroturfing technology to drown out democratic free speech,
and then hide from those whom it seeks to victimize.

It was point no.3 that caught my eye:
0003- Static IP Address Management

What that means is the same as what I've been saying for a while about
doofi, flatcake and clog are true.

They are not individuals but a whole asstroturfing team
behind each sock puppet.

There isn't enough memory between the sock operators to know
or remember what had been said earlier so you know the
conversations are being typed out by multiple individuals
impersonating each other.
It was notable gaffs by the goofy doofy sock that first gave it away.

The asstrotufing teams had already gone into government and offered them
consulting services about what technology and asstroturfing
practices were out there for fbo.gov to decide what they will
purchase in solicitation RTB220610.


:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D



https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=d88e9d660336be91552fe8c1a51bacb2&tab=core&_cview=1

Solicitation Number: RTB220610
Notice Type: Sources Sought
Synopsis: Added: 2010-06-22 13:42:52Jun 22, 2010 1:42 pm
Modified: 2010-06-22 14:07:11Jun 22, 2010 2:07 pmTrack Changes

0001- Online Persona Management Service.

50 User Licenses, 10 Personas per user. Software will
allow 10 personas per user, replete with background,
history, supporting details, and cyber presences
that are technically, culturally and geographacilly
consistent. Individual applications will enable an
operator to exercise a number of different online
persons from the same workstation and without fear
of being discovered by sophisticated adversaries.
Personas must be able to appear to originate in
nearly any part of the world and can interact through
conventional online services and social media platforms.
The service includes a user friendly application
environment to maximize the user's situational
awareness by displaying real-time local information.


0002- Secure Virtual Private Network (VPN).

1 each VPN provides the ability for users to
daily and automatically obtain
randomly selected IP addresses through
which they can access the internet. The daily
rotation of the user s IP address prevents compromise
during observation of likely or targeted web sites
or services, while hiding the existence of the
operation. In addition, may provide traffic mixing,
blending the user s traffic with traffic from multitudes
of users from outside the organization. This traffic
blending provides excellent cover and powerful deniability.
Anonymizer Enterprise Chameleon or equal


0003- Static IP Address Management.


:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D


50 each Licence protects the identity of government
agencies and enterprise organizations. Enables organizations
to manage their persistent online personas by assigning
static IP addresses to each persona. Individuals
can perform static impersonations, which allow
them to look like the same person over time. Also allows
organizations that frequent same site/service often to
easily switch IP addresses to look like ordinary
users as opposed to one organization.
Anonymizer IP Mapper License or equal

:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D


0004- Virtual Private Servers,

CONUS. 1 each Provides CONUS or OCONUS points of
presence locations that are setup for each customer
based on the geographic area of operations the
customer is operating within and which allow a
customer?s online persona(s) to appear to originate
from. Ability to provide virtual private servers that
are procured using commercial hosting centers around
the world and which are established anonymously. Once
procured, the geosite is incorporated into the network
and integrated within the customers environment and
ready for use by the customer. Unless specifically
designated as shared, locations are dedicated for use
by each customer and never shared among other customers.
Anonymizer Annual Dedicated CONUS Light Geosite or equal


0005- Virtual Private Servers, OCONUS.

8 Each Provides CONUS or OCONUS points of presence
locations that are setup for each customer based on
the geographic area of operations the customer is
operating within and which allow a customer?s
online persona(s) to appear toWas it related to drug abuse?

originate from. Ability to provide virtual private
servers that are procured using commercial hosting
centers around the world and which are established
anonymously. Once procured, the geosite is incorporated
into the network and integrated within the customers
environment and ready for use by the customer. Unless
specifically designated as shared, locations are dedicated
for use by each customer and never shared among other
customers. Anonymizer Annual Dedicated OCONUS Light ell troll, i
Geosite or equal


0006- Remote Access Secure Virtual Private Network.

1 each Secure Operating Environment provides a reliable
and protected computing environment from which to stage
and conduct operations. Every session uses a clean
Virtual Machine (VM) image. The solution is accessed
through sets of Virtual Private Network (VPN) devices
located at each Customer facility. The fully-managed
VDI (Virtual Desktop Infrastructure) is an environment
that allows users remote access from their desktop into
a VM. Upon session termination, the VM is deleted and
any virus, worm, or malicious software that the user
inadvertently downloaded is destroyed. Anonymizer
Virtual Desktop Infrastructure (VDI) Solution or equal.


Contracting Office Address:
2606 Brown Pelican Ave.
MacDill AFB, Florida 33621-5000
United States
Lets start this troll interrogation again:
Place of Performance:
Performance will be at MacDIll AFB, Kabul, Afghanistan and Baghdad, Iraq.
MacDill AFB , Florida 33679
United States

Primary Point of Contact.:
Russell Beasley,
Contracting Officer
russell.beasley-***@macdill.af.mil
Phone: (813) 828-4729
Fax: (813) 828-5111
Bill Snyder
2012-02-13 00:46:18 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 00:22:01 +0000, 7
<***@enemygadgets.com> wrote:

[fourth repetition of moronic drool crapsnipped]

Thank you for posting a deranged rant to Usenet. So
that we may better understand your problem, please
provide more information:


1. I post demented babble to Usenet because

[ ] The doctors think it's cathartic..
[ ] I can't help it -- it's the mind control beams.
[ ] The voices tell me to.
[ ] The Greys say if I stop, no more anal probes.
[ ] The world must know of the Evil Conspiracy.

2. I get my demented babble from

[ ] The Plutonium atom in my brain.
[ ] The patient in the next room, Albert Einstein.
[ ] Patterns concealed in crop circles.
[ ] Telepathic messages from the Ascended Master.
[ ] Jesus's face talking to me from a piece of toast.
[ ] My dog, Sam.
[ ] Other (specify) __________________________

3. When not posting demented babble, I usually

[ ] Get drunk/do drugs.
[ ] Clean my AK-47.
[ ] Masturbate.
[ ] Get drunk/do drugs, clean my AK-47, and masturbate.
[ ] Wander the streets and sleep under overpasses.
[ ] Just bounce my head against the rubber wall here.

4. My posting style is distinguished by

[ ] Insults in ALL CAPS, YOU ASSHOLES.
[ ] Just general illiteracy and incoherence.
[ ] "Quotation" "marks" "everywhere."
[ ] Comments to my imaginary friends.
[ ] References to myself in the third person.
[ ] References to myself in the Royal Plural.

5. I must tell the world that (check all that apply)

[ ] The Moon landings were a vast conspiracy.
[ ] 9/11 was a vast conspiracy.
[ ] Evolution is a vast conspiracy.
[ ] Global warming is a vast conspiracy.
[ ] Relativity is a vast conspiracy.
[ ] It's ALL a vast conspiracy. All of it. Everything.

6. The greatest genius of all time was/is

[ ] Nostradamus.
[ ] Mary Baker Eddy.
[ ] Nikola Tesla.
[ ] L. Ron Hubbard.
[ ] Me, of course.

7. I am being persecuted by (check all that apply)

[ ] The Trilateral Commission.
[ ] Spy agency (specify) _________________
[ ] The science/math establishment.
[ ] The doctors here.
[ ] The Reptoids.
[ ] People who laugh at me on Usenet.
[ ] The entire world.
--
Bill Snyder [This space unintentionally left blank]
7
2012-02-13 00:51:35 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
Post by Bill Snyder
Thank you for posting
Thank you for reading, and posting your repeated brainless trolls
to let everyone know what you are a repeatedly proven troll.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!


You need to consult with your managers troll
to get out of this repetitive brainless trolling
loop.

By the time you got it sorted, I reckon it will
take 3 days.

What do you think troll?




Trolling is an Industry in USA
------------------------------

Most US politicians and businesses
are so corrupt and reliant to the point of addiction
on trolls and trolling and so the fund it all illegally
through charities because
funding through charities is untraceable
through loopholes in US law.

The US politicians, embassy staff and anyone else falling for it like
Spanish government should know that the US trolls
ordering embassies to this kind of work
have no mandate for these kinds of activities.

Just rich companies that have bank rolled teams of asstroturfers
to create fake support and certainly no mandate.

There is NO MANDATE when fake asstroturfers are driving
the agenda.

The situation is so bad, it has spread into the military.
No one now knows who drives what agenda because
there is no traceability.

The fscking military, politicians, enviro nuts, music maffia,
using asstroturfing technology need the riot act read to them.

The situation is so incomprehensible that
the US has been declared falsely that it is the most charitable nation in
the world when at the same time 3 million US families
are living in shelter, and most of that charity money is fake
money being diverted from corporations into the coffers of asstroturfing
and PR companies.

Most of the money funneled through
charities never make it to charitable causes in the USA.
It is stolen by politicians and pressure groups to cover
up their fake funding routes for asstroturfing.
They are used to it so we got to get over it?

No thanks!!!!

Not a single politician, embassy staff or military has a
mandate for one single political agenda because no one
knows who is funding who and who's agenda is real
and whose agenda is fake. Every signature collected
is one more fake signature for a mandate written out by
asstroturfers.

Asstroturfing through charities undermines society,
and all the nations dealing with US
and it must stop because no one in US has any legitimate
mandates for any of this activity any more.

If they have it, then should display their mandate
with pride, and show where the support had come from
and if any of it is through charities, then the
whole mandate is faked because charity status is being
abused to hide funding routes for corporate asstroturfing.



Asstroturfer offerings
----------------------


I've just read the contents of the fbo.gov solicitation RTB220610

The US government wants asstroturfers and with it sophisticated
asstroturfing technology to drown out democratic free speech,
and then hide from those whom it seeks to victimize.

It was point no.3 that caught my eye:
0003- Static IP Address Management

What that means is the same as what I've been saying for a while about
doofi, flatcake and clog are true.

They are not individuals but a whole asstroturfing team
behind each sock puppet.

There isn't enough memory between the sock operators to know
or remember what had been said earlier so you know the
conversations are being typed out by multiple individuals
impersonating each other.
It was notable gaffs by the goofy doofy sock that first gave it away.

The asstrotufing teams had already gone into government and offered them
consulting services about what technology and asstroturfing
practices were out there for fbo.gov to decide what they will
purchase in solicitation RTB220610.


:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D



https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=d88e9d660336be91552fe8c1a51bacb2&tab=core&_cview=1

Solicitation Number: RTB220610
Notice Type: Sources Sought
Synopsis: Added: 2010-06-22 13:42:52Jun 22, 2010 1:42 pm
Modified: 2010-06-22 14:07:11Jun 22, 2010 2:07 pmTrack Changes

0001- Online Persona Management Service.

50 User Licenses, 10 Personas per user. Software will
allow 10 personas per user, replete with background,
history, supporting details, and cyber presences
that are technically, culturally and geographacilly
consistent. Individual applications will enable an
operator to exercise a number of different online
persons from the same workstation and without fear
of being discovered by sophisticated adversaries.
Personas must be able to appear to originate in
nearly any part of the world and can interact through
conventional online services and social media platforms.
The service includes a user friendly application
environment to maximize the user's situational
awareness by displaying real-time local information.


0002- Secure Virtual Private Network (VPN).

1 each VPN provides the ability for users to
daily and automatically obtain
randomly selected IP addresses through
which they can access the internet. The daily
rotation of the user s IP address prevents compromise
during observation of likely or targeted web sites
or services, while hiding the existence of the
operation. In addition, may provide traffic mixing,
blending the user s traffic with traffic from multitudes
of users from outside the organization. This traffic
blending provides excellent cover and powerful deniability.
Anonymizer Enterprise Chameleon or equal


0003- Static IP Address Management.


:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D


50 each Licence protects the identity of government
agencies and enterprise organizations. Enables organizations
to manage their persistent online personas by assigning
static IP addresses to each persona. Individuals
can perform static impersonations, which allow
them to look like the same person over time. Also allows
organizations that frequent same site/service often to
easily switch IP addresses to look like ordinary
users as opposed to one organization.
Anonymizer IP Mapper License or equal

:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D


0004- Virtual Private Servers,

CONUS. 1 each Provides CONUS or OCONUS points of
presence locations that are setup for each customer
based on the geographic area of operations the
customer is operating within and which allow a
customer?s online persona(s) to appear to originate
from. Ability to provide virtual private servers that
are procured using commercial hosting centers around
the world and which are established anonymously. Once
procured, the geosite is incorporated into the network
and integrated within the customers environment and
ready for use by the customer. Unless specifically
designated as shared, locations are dedicated for use
by each customer and never shared among other customers.
Anonymizer Annual Dedicated CONUS Light Geosite or equal


0005- Virtual Private Servers, OCONUS.

8 Each Provides CONUS or OCONUS points of presence
locations that are setup for each customer based on
the geographic area of operations the customer is
operating within and which allow a customer?s
online persona(s) to appear toWas it related to drug abuse?

originate from. Ability to provide virtual private
servers that are procured using commercial hosting
centers around the world and which are established
anonymously. Once procured, the geosite is incorporated
into the network and integrated within the customers
environment and ready for use by the customer. Unless
specifically designated as shared, locations are dedicated
for use by each customer and never shared among other
customers. Anonymizer Annual Dedicated OCONUS Light ell troll, i
Geosite or equal


0006- Remote Access Secure Virtual Private Network.

1 each Secure Operating Environment provides a reliable
and protected computing environment from which to stage
and conduct operations. Every session uses a clean
Virtual Machine (VM) image. The solution is accessed
through sets of Virtual Private Network (VPN) devices
located at each Customer facility. The fully-managed
VDI (Virtual Desktop Infrastructure) is an environment
that allows users remote access from their desktop into
a VM. Upon session termination, the VM is deleted and
any virus, worm, or malicious software that the user
inadvertently downloaded is destroyed. Anonymizer
Virtual Desktop Infrastructure (VDI) Solution or equal.


Contracting Office Address:
2606 Brown Pelican Ave.
MacDill AFB, Florida 33621-5000
United States
Lets start this troll interrogation again:
Place of Performance:
Performance will be at MacDIll AFB, Kabul, Afghanistan and Baghdad, Iraq.
MacDill AFB , Florida 33679
United States

Primary Point of Contact.:
Russell Beasley,
Contracting Officer
russell.beasley-***@macdill.af.mil
Phone: (813) 828-4729
Fax: (813) 828-5111
Bill Snyder
2012-02-13 14:22:51 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 00:51:35 +0000, 7
Post by 7
Trolling is an Industry in USA
------------------------------
Most US politicians and businesses
are so corrupt and reliant to the point of addiction
[crapsnip]

Clearly we need more information in your case. Please answer the
following supplemental question:

8. My repeated posting of the exact same gibberish is due to

[ ] Poor or nonexistent toilet training.
[ ] OCD.
[ ] Paranoid schizophrenia.
[ ] Organic brain damage.
[ ] Being too drugged out to remember I did it before.
--
Bill Snyder [This space unintentionally left blank]
7
2012-02-13 20:58:16 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
Post by Bill Snyder
Post by 7
Trolling is an Industry in USA
------------------------------
Most US politicians and businesses
are so corrupt and reliant to the point of addiction
Clearly we need more information
Clearly you should.

The repeated brainless trolls of yours should let everyone know what you are
a repeatedly proven troll.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!


You need to consult with your managers troll
to get out of this repetitive brainless trolling
loop.

By the time you got it sorted, I reckon it will
take 3 days.

What do you think troll?




Trolling is an Industry in USA
------------------------------

Most US politicians and businesses
are so corrupt and reliant to the point of addiction
on trolls and trolling and so the fund it all illegally
through charities because
funding through charities is untraceable
through loopholes in US law.

The US politicians, embassy staff and anyone else falling for it like
Spanish government should know that the US trolls
ordering embassies to this kind of work
have no mandate for these kinds of activities.

Just rich companies that have bank rolled teams of asstroturfers
to create fake support and certainly no mandate.

There is NO MANDATE when fake asstroturfers are driving
the agenda.

The situation is so bad, it has spread into the military.
No one now knows who drives what agenda because
there is no traceability.

The fscking military, politicians, enviro nuts, music maffia,
using asstroturfing technology need the riot act read to them.

The situation is so incomprehensible that
the US has been declared falsely that it is the most charitable nation in
the world when at the same time 3 million US families
are living in shelter, and most of that charity money is fake
money being diverted from corporations into the coffers of asstroturfing
and PR companies.

Most of the money funneled through
charities never make it to charitable causes in the USA.
It is stolen by politicians and pressure groups to cover
up their fake funding routes for asstroturfing.
They are used to it so we got to get over it?

No thanks!!!!

Not a single politician, embassy staff or military has a
mandate for one single political agenda because no one
knows who is funding who and who's agenda is real
and whose agenda is fake. Every signature collected
is one more fake signature for a mandate written out by
asstroturfers.

Asstroturfing through charities undermines society,
and all the nations dealing with US
and it must stop because no one in US has any legitimate
mandates for any of this activity any more.

If they have it, then should display their mandate
with pride, and show where the support had come from
and if any of it is through charities, then the
whole mandate is faked because charity status is being
abused to hide funding routes for corporate asstroturfing.



Asstroturfer offerings
----------------------


I've just read the contents of the fbo.gov solicitation RTB220610

The US government wants asstroturfers and with it sophisticated
asstroturfing technology to drown out democratic free speech,
and then hide from those whom it seeks to victimize.

It was point no.3 that caught my eye:
0003- Static IP Address Management

What that means is the same as what I've been saying for a while about
doofi, flatcake and clog are true.

They are not individuals but a whole asstroturfing team
behind each sock puppet.

There isn't enough memory between the sock operators to know
or remember what had been said earlier so you know the
conversations are being typed out by multiple individuals
impersonating each other.
It was notable gaffs by the goofy doofy sock that first gave it away.

The asstrotufing teams had already gone into government and offered them
consulting services about what technology and asstroturfing
practices were out there for fbo.gov to decide what they will
purchase in solicitation RTB220610.


:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D



https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=d88e9d660336be91552fe8c1a51bacb2&tab=core&_cview=1

Solicitation Number: RTB220610
Notice Type: Sources Sought
Synopsis: Added: 2010-06-22 13:42:52Jun 22, 2010 1:42 pm
Modified: 2010-06-22 14:07:11Jun 22, 2010 2:07 pmTrack Changes

0001- Online Persona Management Service.

50 User Licenses, 10 Personas per user. Software will
allow 10 personas per user, replete with background,
history, supporting details, and cyber presences
that are technically, culturally and geographacilly
consistent. Individual applications will enable an
operator to exercise a number of different online
persons from the same workstation and without fear
of being discovered by sophisticated adversaries.
Personas must be able to appear to originate in
nearly any part of the world and can interact through
conventional online services and social media platforms.
The service includes a user friendly application
environment to maximize the user's situational
awareness by displaying real-time local information.


0002- Secure Virtual Private Network (VPN).

1 each VPN provides the ability for users to
daily and automatically obtain
randomly selected IP addresses through
which they can access the internet. The daily
rotation of the user s IP address prevents compromise
during observation of likely or targeted web sites
or services, while hiding the existence of the
operation. In addition, may provide traffic mixing,
blending the user s traffic with traffic from multitudes
of users from outside the organization. This traffic
blending provides excellent cover and powerful deniability.
Anonymizer Enterprise Chameleon or equal


0003- Static IP Address Management.


:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D


50 each Licence protects the identity of government
agencies and enterprise organizations. Enables organizations
to manage their persistent online personas by assigning
static IP addresses to each persona. Individuals
can perform static impersonations, which allow
them to look like the same person over time. Also allows
organizations that frequent same site/service often to
easily switch IP addresses to look like ordinary
users as opposed to one organization.
Anonymizer IP Mapper License or equal

:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D


0004- Virtual Private Servers,

CONUS. 1 each Provides CONUS or OCONUS points of
presence locations that are setup for each customer
based on the geographic area of operations the
customer is operating within and which allow a
customer?s online persona(s) to appear to originate
from. Ability to provide virtual private servers that
are procured using commercial hosting centers around
the world and which are established anonymously. Once
procured, the geosite is incorporated into the network
and integrated within the customers environment and
ready for use by the customer. Unless specifically
designated as shared, locations are dedicated for use
by each customer and never shared among other customers.
Anonymizer Annual Dedicated CONUS Light Geosite or equal


0005- Virtual Private Servers, OCONUS.

8 Each Provides CONUS or OCONUS points of presence
locations that are setup for each customer based on
the geographic area of operations the customer is
operating within and which allow a customer?s
online persona(s) to appear toWas it related to drug abuse?

originate from. Ability to provide virtual private
servers that are procured using commercial hosting
centers around the world and which are established
anonymously. Once procured, the geosite is incorporated
into the network and integrated within the customers
environment and ready for use by the customer. Unless
specifically designated as shared, locations are dedicated
for use by each customer and never shared among other
customers. Anonymizer Annual Dedicated OCONUS Light ell troll, i
Geosite or equal


0006- Remote Access Secure Virtual Private Network.

1 each Secure Operating Environment provides a reliable
and protected computing environment from which to stage
and conduct operations. Every session uses a clean
Virtual Machine (VM) image. The solution is accessed
through sets of Virtual Private Network (VPN) devices
located at each Customer facility. The fully-managed
VDI (Virtual Desktop Infrastructure) is an environment
that allows users remote access from their desktop into
a VM. Upon session termination, the VM is deleted and
any virus, worm, or malicious software that the user
inadvertently downloaded is destroyed. Anonymizer
Virtual Desktop Infrastructure (VDI) Solution or equal.


Contracting Office Address:
2606 Brown Pelican Ave.
MacDill AFB, Florida 33621-5000
United States
Lets start this troll interrogation again:
Place of Performance:
Performance will be at MacDIll AFB, Kabul, Afghanistan and Baghdad, Iraq.
MacDill AFB , Florida 33679
United States

Primary Point of Contact.:
Russell Beasley,
Contracting Officer
russell.beasley-***@macdill.af.mil
Phone: (813) 828-4729
Fax: (813) 828-5111
Bill Snyder
2012-02-13 21:15:21 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 20:58:16 +0000, 7
Post by 7
Trolling is an Industry in USA
------------------------------
Most US politicians and businesses
are so corrupt and reliant to the point of addiction
[crapsnip]

8. My robotic re-posting of the exact same gibberish is due to

[ ] Being a bot.
[ ] Poor or nonexistent toilet training.
[ ] OCD.
[ ] Alzheimer's.
[ ] Paranoid schizophrenia.
[ ] Organic brain damage.
[ ] Being too drugged-out to remember doing it before.
--
Bill Snyder [This space unintentionally left blank]
7
2012-02-14 09:21:10 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
Post by 7
Trolling is an Industry in USA
------------------------------
Most US politicians and businesses
are so corrupt and reliant to the point of addiction
[crap
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!


You need to consult with your managers troll
to get out of this repetitive brainless trolling
loop.

By the time you got it sorted, I reckon it will
take 3 days. 2 days have gone - you got 1 more
day to re-organize your trolls.

What do you think troll?




Trolling is an Industry in USA
------------------------------

Most US politicians and businesses
are so corrupt and reliant to the point of addiction
on trolls and trolling and so the fund it all illegally
through charities because
funding through charities is untraceable
through loopholes in US law.

The US politicians, embassy staff and anyone else falling for it like
Spanish government should know that the US trolls
ordering embassies to this kind of work
have no mandate for these kinds of activities.

Just rich companies that have bank rolled teams of asstroturfers
to create fake support and certainly no mandate.

There is NO MANDATE when fake asstroturfers are driving
the agenda.

The situation is so bad, it has spread into the military.
No one now knows who drives what agenda because
there is no traceability.

The fscking military, politicians, enviro nuts, music maffia,
using asstroturfing technology need the riot act read to them.

The situation is so incomprehensible that
the US has been declared falsely that it is the most charitable nation in
the world when at the same time 3 million US families
are living in shelter, and most of that charity money is fake
money being diverted from corporations into the coffers of asstroturfing
and PR companies.

Most of the money funneled through
charities never make it to charitable causes in the USA.
It is stolen by politicians and pressure groups to cover
up their fake funding routes for asstroturfing.
They are used to it so we got to get over it?

No thanks!!!!

Not a single politician, embassy staff or military has a
mandate for one single political agenda because no one
knows who is funding who and who's agenda is real
and whose agenda is fake. Every signature collected
is one more fake signature for a mandate written out by
asstroturfers.

Asstroturfing through charities undermines society,
and all the nations dealing with US
and it must stop because no one in US has any legitimate
mandates for any of this activity any more.

If they have it, then should display their mandate
with pride, and show where the support had come from
and if any of it is through charities, then the
whole mandate is faked because charity status is being
abused to hide funding routes for corporate asstroturfing.



Asstroturfer offerings
----------------------


I've just read the contents of the fbo.gov solicitation RTB220610

The US government wants asstroturfers and with it sophisticated
asstroturfing technology to drown out democratic free speech,
and then hide from those whom it seeks to victimize.

It was point no.3 that caught my eye:
0003- Static IP Address Management

What that means is the same as what I've been saying for a while about
doofi, flatcake and clog are true.

They are not individuals but a whole asstroturfing team
behind each sock puppet.

There isn't enough memory between the sock operators to know
or remember what had been said earlier so you know the
conversations are being typed out by multiple individuals
impersonating each other.
It was notable gaffs by the goofy doofy sock that first gave it away.

The asstrotufing teams had already gone into government and offered them
consulting services about what technology and asstroturfing
practices were out there for fbo.gov to decide what they will
purchase in solicitation RTB220610.


:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D



https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=d88e9d660336be91552fe8c1a51bacb2&tab=core&_cview=1

Solicitation Number: RTB220610
Notice Type: Sources Sought
Synopsis: Added: 2010-06-22 13:42:52Jun 22, 2010 1:42 pm
Modified: 2010-06-22 14:07:11Jun 22, 2010 2:07 pmTrack Changes

0001- Online Persona Management Service.

50 User Licenses, 10 Personas per user. Software will
allow 10 personas per user, replete with background,
history, supporting details, and cyber presences
that are technically, culturally and geographacilly
consistent. Individual applications will enable an
operator to exercise a number of different online
persons from the same workstation and without fear
of being discovered by sophisticated adversaries.
Personas must be able to appear to originate in
nearly any part of the world and can interact through
conventional online services and social media platforms.
The service includes a user friendly application
environment to maximize the user's situational
awareness by displaying real-time local information.


0002- Secure Virtual Private Network (VPN).

1 each VPN provides the ability for users to
daily and automatically obtain
randomly selected IP addresses through
which they can access the internet. The daily
rotation of the user s IP address prevents compromise
during observation of likely or targeted web sites
or services, while hiding the existence of the
operation. In addition, may provide traffic mixing,
blending the user s traffic with traffic from multitudes
of users from outside the organization. This traffic
blending provides excellent cover and powerful deniability.
Anonymizer Enterprise Chameleon or equal


0003- Static IP Address Management.


:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D


50 each Licence protects the identity of government
agencies and enterprise organizations. Enables organizations
to manage their persistent online personas by assigning
static IP addresses to each persona. Individuals
can perform static impersonations, which allow
them to look like the same person over time. Also allows
organizations that frequent same site/service often to
easily switch IP addresses to look like ordinary
users as opposed to one organization.
Anonymizer IP Mapper License or equal

:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D


0004- Virtual Private Servers,

CONUS. 1 each Provides CONUS or OCONUS points of
presence locations that are setup for each customer
based on the geographic area of operations the
customer is operating within and which allow a
customer?s online persona(s) to appear to originate
from. Ability to provide virtual private servers that
are procured using commercial hosting centers around
the world and which are established anonymously. Once
procured, the geosite is incorporated into the network
and integrated within the customers environment and
ready for use by the customer. Unless specifically
designated as shared, locations are dedicated for use
by each customer and never shared among other customers.
Anonymizer Annual Dedicated CONUS Light Geosite or equal


0005- Virtual Private Servers, OCONUS.

8 Each Provides CONUS or OCONUS points of presence
locations that are setup for each customer based on
the geographic area of operations the customer is
operating within and which allow a customer?s
online persona(s) to appear toWas it related to drug abuse?

originate from. Ability to provide virtual private
servers that are procured using commercial hosting
centers around the world and which are established
anonymously. Once procured, the geosite is incorporated
into the network and integrated within the customers
environment and ready for use by the customer. Unless
specifically designated as shared, locations are dedicated
for use by each customer and never shared among other
customers. Anonymizer Annual Dedicated OCONUS Light ell troll, i
Geosite or equal


0006- Remote Access Secure Virtual Private Network.

1 each Secure Operating Environment provides a reliable
and protected computing environment from which to stage
and conduct operations. Every session uses a clean
Virtual Machine (VM) image. The solution is accessed
through sets of Virtual Private Network (VPN) devices
located at each Customer facility. The fully-managed
VDI (Virtual Desktop Infrastructure) is an environment
that allows users remote access from their desktop into
a VM. Upon session termination, the VM is deleted and
any virus, worm, or malicious software that the user
inadvertently downloaded is destroyed. Anonymizer
Virtual Desktop Infrastructure (VDI) Solution or equal.


Contracting Office Address:
2606 Brown Pelican Ave.
MacDill AFB, Florida 33621-5000
United States
Lets start this troll interrogation again:
Place of Performance:
Performance will be at MacDIll AFB, Kabul, Afghanistan and Baghdad, Iraq.
MacDill AFB , Florida 33679
United States

Primary Point of Contact.:
Russell Beasley,
Contracting Officer
russell.beasley-***@macdill.af.mil
Phone: (813) 828-4729
Fax: (813) 828-5111
Bill Snyder
2012-02-14 14:18:46 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 09:21:10 +0000, 7
Post by 7
Trolling is an Industry in USA
------------------------------
Most US politicians and businesses
are so corrupt and reliant to the point of addiction
[crapsnip]

8. My robotic re-posting of the exact same gibberish is due to

[ ] Being a bot.
[ ] Poor or nonexistent toilet training.
[ ] OCD.
[ ] Alzheimer's.
[ ] Paranoid schizophrenia.
[ ] Organic brain damage.
[ ] Being too drugged-out to remember doing it before.
--
Bill Snyder [This space unintentionally left blank]
7
2012-02-14 21:48:44 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
Post by 7
Trolling is an Industry in USA
------------------------------
Most US politicians and businesses
are so corrupt and reliant to the point of addiction
8
Oops did I say you were you still need to
using eternal-september.org consult your dopey
which is used by trolls because dopey managers troll.
every other ISP will sue you? Being reduced to a
T&C violations, troll is no fun in science groups

What do you think troll?




Trolling is an Industry in USA
------------------------------

Most US politicians and businesses
are so corrupt and reliant to the point of addiction
on trolls and trolling and so the fund it all illegally
through charities because
funding through charities is untraceable
through loopholes in US law.

The US politicians, embassy staff and anyone else falling for it like
Spanish government should know that the US trolls
ordering embassies to this kind of work
have no mandate for these kinds of activities.

Just rich companies that have bank rolled teams of asstroturfers
to create fake support and certainly no mandate.

There is NO MANDATE when fake asstroturfers are driving
the agenda.

The situation is so bad, it has spread into the military.
No one now knows who drives what agenda because
there is no traceability.

The fscking military, politicians, enviro nuts, music maffia,
using asstroturfing technology need the riot act read to them.

The situation is so incomprehensible that
the US has been declared falsely that it is the most charitable nation in
the world when at the same time 3 million US families
are living in shelter, and most of that charity money is fake
money being diverted from corporations into the coffers of asstroturfing
and PR companies.

Most of the money funneled through
charities never make it to charitable causes in the USA.
It is stolen by politicians and pressure groups to cover
up their fake funding routes for asstroturfing.
They are used to it so we got to get over it?

No thanks!!!!

Not a single politician, embassy staff or military has a
mandate for one single political agenda because no one
knows who is funding who and who's agenda is real
and whose agenda is fake. Every signature collected
is one more fake signature for a mandate written out by
asstroturfers.

Asstroturfing through charities undermines society,
and all the nations dealing with US
and it must stop because no one in US has any legitimate
mandates for any of this activity any more.

If they have it, then should display their mandate
with pride, and show where the support had come from
and if any of it is through charities, then the
whole mandate is faked because charity status is being
abused to hide funding routes for corporate asstroturfing.



Asstroturfer offerings
----------------------


I've just read the contents of the fbo.gov solicitation RTB220610

The US government wants asstroturfers and with it sophisticated
asstroturfing technology to drown out democratic free speech,
and then hide from those whom it seeks to victimize.

It was point no.3 that caught my eye:
0003- Static IP Address Management

What that means is the same as what I've been saying for a while about
doofi, flatcake and clog are true.

They are not individuals but a whole asstroturfing team
behind each sock puppet.

There isn't enough memory between the sock operators to know
or remember what had been said earlier so you know the
conversations are being typed out by multiple individuals
impersonating each other.
It was notable gaffs by the goofy doofy sock that first gave it away.

The asstrotufing teams had already gone into government and offered them
consulting services about what technology and asstroturfing
practices were out there for fbo.gov to decide what they will
purchase in solicitation RTB220610.


:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D



https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=d88e9d660336be91552fe8c1a51bacb2&tab=core&_cview=1

Solicitation Number: RTB220610
Notice Type: Sources Sought
Synopsis: Added: 2010-06-22 13:42:52Jun 22, 2010 1:42 pm
Modified: 2010-06-22 14:07:11Jun 22, 2010 2:07 pmTrack Changes

0001- Online Persona Management Service.

50 User Licenses, 10 Personas per user. Software will
allow 10 personas per user, replete with background,
history, supporting details, and cyber presences
that are technically, culturally and geographacilly
consistent. Individual applications will enable an
operator to exercise a number of different online
persons from the same workstation and without fear
of being discovered by sophisticated adversaries.
Personas must be able to appear to originate in
nearly any part of the world and can interact through
conventional online services and social media platforms.
The service includes a user friendly application
environment to maximize the user's situational
awareness by displaying real-time local information.


0002- Secure Virtual Private Network (VPN).

1 each VPN provides the ability for users to
daily and automatically obtain
randomly selected IP addresses through
which they can access the internet. The daily
rotation of the user s IP address prevents compromise
during observation of likely or targeted web sites
or services, while hiding the existence of the
operation. In addition, may provide traffic mixing,
blending the user s traffic with traffic from multitudes
of users from outside the organization. This traffic
blending provides excellent cover and powerful deniability.
Anonymizer Enterprise Chameleon or equal


0003- Static IP Address Management.


:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D


50 each Licence protects the identity of government
agencies and enterprise organizations. Enables organizations
to manage their persistent online personas by assigning
static IP addresses to each persona. Individuals
can perform static impersonations, which allow
them to look like the same person over time. Also allows
organizations that frequent same site/service often to
easily switch IP addresses to look like ordinary
users as opposed to one organization.
Anonymizer IP Mapper License or equal

:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D


0004- Virtual Private Servers,

CONUS. 1 each Provides CONUS or OCONUS points of
presence locations that are setup for each customer
based on the geographic area of operations the
customer is operating within and which allow a
customer?s online persona(s) to appear to originate
from. Ability to provide virtual private servers that
are procured using commercial hosting centers around
the world and which are established anonymously. Once
procured, the geosite is incorporated into the network
and integrated within the customers environment and
ready for use by the customer. Unless specifically
designated as shared, locations are dedicated for use
by each customer and never shared among other customers.
Anonymizer Annual Dedicated CONUS Light Geosite or equal


0005- Virtual Private Servers, OCONUS.

8 Each Provides CONUS or OCONUS points of presence
locations that are setup for each customer based on
the geographic area of operations the customer is
operating within and which allow a customer?s
online persona(s) to appear toWas it related to drug abuse?

originate from. Ability to provide virtual private
servers that are procured using commercial hosting
centers around the world and which are established
anonymously. Once procured, the geosite is incorporated
into the network and integrated within the customers
environment and ready for use by the customer. Unless
specifically designated as shared, locations are dedicated
for use by each customer and never shared among other
customers. Anonymizer Annual Dedicated OCONUS Light ell troll, i
Geosite or equal


0006- Remote Access Secure Virtual Private Network.

1 each Secure Operating Environment provides a reliable
and protected computing environment from which to stage
and conduct operations. Every session uses a clean
Virtual Machine (VM) image. The solution is accessed
through sets of Virtual Private Network (VPN) devices
located at each Customer facility. The fully-managed
VDI (Virtual Desktop Infrastructure) is an environment
that allows users remote access from their desktop into
a VM. Upon session termination, the VM is deleted and
any virus, worm, or malicious software that the user
inadvertently downloaded is destroyed. Anonymizer
Virtual Desktop Infrastructure (VDI) Solution or equal.


Contracting Office Address:
2606 Brown Pelican Ave.
MacDill AFB, Florida 33621-5000
United States
Lets start this troll interrogation again:
Place of Performance:
Performance will be at MacDIll AFB, Kabul, Afghanistan and Baghdad, Iraq.
MacDill AFB , Florida 33679
United States

Primary Point of Contact.:
Russell Beasley,
Contracting Officer
russell.beasley-***@macdill.af.mil
Phone: (813) 828-4729
Fax: (813) 828-5111
Bill Snyder
2012-02-14 21:52:36 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 21:48:44 +0000, 7
Post by 7
Trolling is an Industry in USA
------------------------------
Most US politicians and businesses
are so corrupt and reliant to the point of addiction
[crapsnip]

8. My robotic re-posting of the exact same gibberish is due to

[ ] Being a bot.
[ ] Poor or nonexistent toilet training.
[ ] OCD.
[ ] Alzheimer's.
[ ] Paranoid schizophrenia.
[ ] Organic brain damage.
[ ] Being too drugged-out to remember doing it before.
--
Bill Snyder [This space unintentionally left blank]
7
2012-02-15 20:43:42 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
8
What do you think troll?
Do you believe you got it yet?

You are living proof that trolling has become an industry in USA.



Trolling is an Industry in USA
------------------------------

Most US politicians and businesses
are so corrupt and reliant to the point of addiction
on trolls and trolling and so the fund it all illegally
through charities because
funding through charities is untraceable
through loopholes in US law.

The US politicians, embassy staff and anyone else falling for it like
Spanish government should know that the US trolls
ordering embassies to this kind of work
have no mandate for these kinds of activities.

Just rich companies that have bank rolled teams of asstroturfers
to create fake support and certainly no mandate.

There is NO MANDATE when fake asstroturfers are driving
the agenda.

The situation is so bad, it has spread into the military.
No one now knows who drives what agenda because
there is no traceability.

The fscking military, politicians, enviro nuts, music maffia,
using asstroturfing technology need the riot act read to them.

The situation is so incomprehensible that
the US has been declared falsely that it is the most charitable nation in
the world when at the same time 3 million US families
are living in shelter, and most of that charity money is fake
money being diverted from corporations into the coffers of asstroturfing
and PR companies.

Most of the money funneled through
charities never make it to charitable causes in the USA.
It is stolen by politicians and pressure groups to cover
up their fake funding routes for asstroturfing.
They are used to it so we got to get over it?

No thanks!!!!

Not a single politician, embassy staff or military has a
mandate for one single political agenda because no one
knows who is funding who and who's agenda is real
and whose agenda is fake. Every signature collected
is one more fake signature for a mandate written out by
asstroturfers.

Asstroturfing through charities undermines society,
and all the nations dealing with US
and it must stop because no one in US has any legitimate
mandates for any of this activity any more.

If they have it, then should display their mandate
with pride, and show where the support had come from
and if any of it is through charities, then the
whole mandate is faked because charity status is being
abused to hide funding routes for corporate asstroturfing.



Asstroturfer offerings
----------------------


I've just read the contents of the fbo.gov solicitation RTB220610

The US government wants asstroturfers and with it sophisticated
asstroturfing technology to drown out democratic free speech,
and then hide from those whom it seeks to victimize.

It was point no.3 that caught my eye:
0003- Static IP Address Management

What that means is the same as what I've been saying for a while about
doofi, flatcake and clog are true.

They are not individuals but a whole asstroturfing team
behind each sock puppet.

There isn't enough memory between the sock operators to know
or remember what had been said earlier so you know the
conversations are being typed out by multiple individuals
impersonating each other.
It was notable gaffs by the goofy doofy sock that first gave it away.

The asstrotufing teams had already gone into government and offered them
consulting services about what technology and asstroturfing
practices were out there for fbo.gov to decide what they will
purchase in solicitation RTB220610.


:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D



https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=d88e9d660336be91552fe8c1a51bacb2&tab=core&_cview=1

Solicitation Number: RTB220610
Notice Type: Sources Sought
Synopsis: Added: 2010-06-22 13:42:52Jun 22, 2010 1:42 pm
Modified: 2010-06-22 14:07:11Jun 22, 2010 2:07 pmTrack Changes

0001- Online Persona Management Service.

50 User Licenses, 10 Personas per user. Software will
allow 10 personas per user, replete with background,
history, supporting details, and cyber presences
that are technically, culturally and geographacilly
consistent. Individual applications will enable an
operator to exercise a number of different online
persons from the same workstation and without fear
of being discovered by sophisticated adversaries.
Personas must be able to appear to originate in
nearly any part of the world and can interact through
conventional online services and social media platforms.
The service includes a user friendly application
environment to maximize the user's situational
awareness by displaying real-time local information.


0002- Secure Virtual Private Network (VPN).

1 each VPN provides the ability for users to
daily and automatically obtain
randomly selected IP addresses through
which they can access the internet. The daily
rotation of the user s IP address prevents compromise
during observation of likely or targeted web sites
or services, while hiding the existence of the
operation. In addition, may provide traffic mixing,
blending the user s traffic with traffic from multitudes
of users from outside the organization. This traffic
blending provides excellent cover and powerful deniability.
Anonymizer Enterprise Chameleon or equal


0003- Static IP Address Management.


:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D


50 each Licence protects the identity of government
agencies and enterprise organizations. Enables organizations
to manage their persistent online personas by assigning
static IP addresses to each persona. Individuals
can perform static impersonations, which allow
them to look like the same person over time. Also allows
organizations that frequent same site/service often to
easily switch IP addresses to look like ordinary
users as opposed to one organization.
Anonymizer IP Mapper License or equal

:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D


0004- Virtual Private Servers,

CONUS. 1 each Provides CONUS or OCONUS points of
presence locations that are setup for each customer
based on the geographic area of operations the
customer is operating within and which allow a
customer?s online persona(s) to appear to originate
from. Ability to provide virtual private servers that
are procured using commercial hosting centers around
the world and which are established anonymously. Once
procured, the geosite is incorporated into the network
and integrated within the customers environment and
ready for use by the customer. Unless specifically
designated as shared, locations are dedicated for use
by each customer and never shared among other customers.
Anonymizer Annual Dedicated CONUS Light Geosite or equal


0005- Virtual Private Servers, OCONUS.

8 Each Provides CONUS or OCONUS points of presence
locations that are setup for each customer based on
the geographic area of operations the customer is
operating within and which allow a customer?s
online persona(s) to appear toWas it related to drug abuse?

originate from. Ability to provide virtual private
servers that are procured using commercial hosting
centers around the world and which are established
anonymously. Once procured, the geosite is incorporated
into the network and integrated within the customers
environment and ready for use by the customer. Unless
specifically designated as shared, locations are dedicated
for use by each customer and never shared among other
customers. Anonymizer Annual Dedicated OCONUS Light ell troll, i
Geosite or equal


0006- Remote Access Secure Virtual Private Network.

1 each Secure Operating Environment provides a reliable
and protected computing environment from which to stage
and conduct operations. Every session uses a clean
Virtual Machine (VM) image. The solution is accessed
through sets of Virtual Private Network (VPN) devices
located at each Customer facility. The fully-managed
VDI (Virtual Desktop Infrastructure) is an environment
that allows users remote access from their desktop into
a VM. Upon session termination, the VM is deleted and
any virus, worm, or malicious software that the user
inadvertently downloaded is destroyed. Anonymizer
Virtual Desktop Infrastructure (VDI) Solution or equal.


Contracting Office Address:
2606 Brown Pelican Ave.
MacDill AFB, Florida 33621-5000
United States
Lets start this troll interrogation again:
Place of Performance:
Performance will be at MacDIll AFB, Kabul, Afghanistan and Baghdad, Iraq.
MacDill AFB , Florida 33679
United States

Primary Point of Contact.:
Russell Beasley,
Contracting Officer
russell.beasley-***@macdill.af.mil
Phone: (813) 828-4729
Fax: (813) 828-5111
Bill Snyder
2012-02-15 20:50:12 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 20:43:42 +0000, 7
Post by 7
What do you think troll?
Do you believe you got it yet?
You are living proof that trolling has become an industry in USA.
Trolling is an Industry in USA
------------------------------
Most US politicians and businesses
are so corrupt and reliant to the point of addiction
[crapsnip]

C'mon, wackjob, answer the question. Deep down, you know
how desperately you need to start facing up to your problems.

8. My robotic re-posting of the exact same gibberish is due to

[ ] Being a bot.
[ ] Poor or nonexistent toilet training.
[ ] OCD.
[ ] Alzheimer's.
[ ] Paranoid schizophrenia.
[ ] Organic brain damage.
[ ] Being too drugged-out to remember doing it before.
--
Bill Snyder [This space unintentionally left blank]
Robert W. Lutz
2012-02-17 03:34:35 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
Post by Bill Snyder
On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 20:43:42 +0000, 7
Post by 7
What do you think troll?
Do you believe you got it yet?
You are living proof that trolling has become an industry in USA.
Trolling is an Industry in USA
------------------------------
Most US politicians and businesses
are so corrupt and reliant to the point of addiction
[crapsnip]
C'mon, wackjob, answer the question. Deep down, you know
how desperately you need to start facing up to your problems.
8. My robotic re-posting of the exact same gibberish is due to
[ ] Being a bot.
[ ] Poor or nonexistent toilet training.
[ ] OCD.
[ ] Alzheimer's.
[ ] Paranoid schizophrenia.
[ ] Organic brain damage.
[ ] Being too drugged-out to remember doing it before.
Glad to see you are still alive and well after all these years. And now
we get to see a new idiot on sci.physics.fusion. Talk about deja vu.
7
2012-02-13 00:41:47 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
Post by Marvin the Martian
Post by 7
Post by Bill Snyder
Thank you for posting
Thank you for reading.
Standard practice for paid trolls to engage a newsgroup to kill
discussion to buy time.
The question is who is paying and why.
If US government agencies got involved (which they did), then its always
someone attached to their funding sources trying to make sure everyone
Sadly for them, they did not get ahead because in their mad bid to get
ahead, they killed discussion.
Trolling is an Industry in USA
I don't disagree. Hot fusion is big business in physics academia.
Certainly some of them tried to kill the discussion.
Once you realize that cold fusion can be used to make a nuclear bomb that
is undetectable like fission bombs, then you realize why there is a
government disinformation campaign.
Once new threads are started, it takes the trolls about 3 days
to organize themselves and start their trolling tactics.
Usually the trolls have to be coordinated, otherwise the illusion
is lost and they get crucified by real scientists and engineers picking
them apart. And those 3 days is a chance to get in with some clear
discussion, before abandoning the threads and moving on to related
subjects.

Also trolling isn't very effective these days because they
run a big security risk of being found in next to no time with
the tools available to those experienced in using such
technology.
tom
2012-03-01 01:56:28 UTC
Permalink
Raw Message
Post by 7
Post by ***@teranews.com
Post by Bill Snyder
Post by Marvin the Martian
Idiot trolls killed all discussion, insulted the researchers right out
of the group, and the group was abandoned.
You misspelled, "Grandiose claims, never backed up by the tiniest
shred of evidence, and the consequent ridicule, led the
hype-mongers to adjourn to their own web boards where they could
lie as much as they liked and never be mocked, while the sane
people lost interest and wandered off."
From this we conclude that Marvin gave a correct historical description
and Bill Snyder was clearly one of the idiot trolls who disrupted all
reasonable discussion with insults, accusations that anyone not taking a
"debunking' position was "insane", and denigration of all participants.
(you know, just like he does here)
Standard practice for paid trolls to engage a newsgroup
to kill discussion to buy time.
The question is who is paying and why.
If US government agencies got involved (which they did),
then its always someone attached to their funding sources trying
to make sure everyone else doesn't have a forum
Sadly for them, they did not get ahead because in their
mad bid to get ahead, they killed discussion.
Trolling is an Industry in USA
------------------------------
Most US politicians and businesses
are so corrupt and reliant to the point of addiction
on trolls and trolling and so the fund it all illegally
through charities because
funding through charities is untraceable
through loopholes in US law.
That may have been true 20 years ago when newsgroups counted for
something, but there is no way they care now.

One tweet blows away 10000 newsgroups.

Get perspective.

tom

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