A practical solution to the oil "crisis".

[gabydewilde]

Uncle Al , the battery pack will be recharged by surplus wind and solar
power via induction in the road or at the plug. The point is gasoline is
RUNNING OUT  and will soon become too expensive.

For gasoline to be as expensive as solar, it would have to cost 30x as
much, or about $90 per gallon.
For gasoline to be as expensive as wind, it would have to cost about $9
per gallon.
Meanwhile....
For gasoline to be as expensive as methanol, it would have to cost about
$2 per gallon. Wait... isn't gasoline above that now?! Why, yes it is.
So you ask, if methanol only cost $2 per gallon, then why don't we see
1) It can't run in your car. It would dissolve your fuel system. Simple
changes have to be made to make your car flex fueled. To do this would
cost about $1 billion dollars for the auto companies to re-certify their
engines for gasoline/ethanol/methanol flex fuel. New cars would have
options. Once there were enough new cars on the market, gas stations
would start to sell Methanol.  
Now, you ask, why did that idiot Obama spend $1 on his idiot "cash for
clunkers" giveaway, where people would get $4500 for turning in their old
cars for a fuel efficient one like a Hummer H3, when he could have solved
the energy crisis once and for all by paying the auto companies to flex
fuel their cars? Because the man is not just pig ignorant stupid, he's
trying to destroy the country.
2) Last time Methanol production threatened gasoline was during the Arab
Oil Embargo. Once Methanol was a threat, OPEC flooded the market with
cheap gasoline to drive them out of business. It is recognized that any
large scale effort to switch to Methanol would result in the same
reaction by the illegal bandit organization OPEC. The solution to that is
to slap a tax on oil imports to ensure that gasoline prices remain where
they are.

Good point but you are still duped and brainwashed. Using dollar
coupons as your reference point. If we was to say use gold then in
1900 you would buy 50 times as much for a dollar. Both wind and solar
would have been very cheap in 1980 compared to what it costs now.

But lets not be sad about it, using alcohol as a fuel isn't as hard as
you say it is.

You know how an electrolyzer works? It is remarkably unimaginative.

Say we build one with say 200 plates, we make it big enough to run a
car.

Now in stead of destroying engines with 95% ethanol we can use 60%
ethanol.

60% ethanol is about 1/4 of the price of the pure stuff.

Then also not to forget, hemp is a whole lot cheaper to grow than
anything else. It grows in sand and refertilizes the soil all by it
self rather than destroying it. The only thing that prevents Obama
from doing this is the US drugs cartel. You see this is actually what
the US economy runs on.

But any biomass will do, there are such advanced yeast strains that it
really doesn't matter.

Of course the oil cartel hunts down anyone who dares to produce
alcohol on an industrial scale. You will be subjected to regular raids
and have to follow a strict code of not living. If they raid you in
the one minute before you put the poison in the alcohol you will be
railroaded off to a prison campf. Evidence may also be fabricated of
course.

So this leaves only one option, doing it yo-self. There are many
thousands building hydrogen fuel cells, and many thousands distilling
their own fuel at home. Nothing prevents you from doing so. Blindly
running after corporations and governments is really asking for it.
They are not here to help you but to destroy you.

more info here:
http://knol.google.com/k///1yrf1mzjtxzk5/25

[Surfer]

On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 18:50:24 -0700 (PDT), gabydewilde

Post by gabydewilde
Of course the oil cartel hunts down anyone who dares to produce
alcohol on an industrial scale.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethanol_fuel_in_Brazil

Brazil is the world's second largest producer of ethanol fuel and the
world's largest exporter. Together, Brazil and the United States lead
the industrial production of ethanol fuel, accounting together for 89%
of the world's production in 2008.[1][2][3]

In 2008 Brazil produced 24.5 billion litres (6.47 billion U.S. liquid
gallons),[1] which represents 37.3% of the world's total ethanol used
as fuel.[1][3]

[Marvin the Martian]

Post by Surfer
On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 18:50:24 -0700 (PDT), gabydewilde

Of course the oil cartel hunts down anyone who dares to produce alcohol
on an industrial scale.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethanol_fuel_in_Brazil
Brazil is the world's second largest producer of ethanol fuel and the
world's largest exporter. Together, Brazil and the United States lead
the industrial production of ethanol fuel, accounting together for 89%
of the world's production in 2008.[1][2][3]
In 2008 Brazil produced 24.5 billion litres (6.47 billion U.S. liquid
gallons),[1] which represents 37.3% of the world's total ethanol used as
fuel.[1][3]

Brazil is on the equator, and has land well suited to growing sugar cane.

The US has very little land suited for sugar cane, as it is farther
north.

Apples to oranges. Again.

Which has nothing to do with the fact that gabydewilde made. It is true
enough that OPEC will drop the price to prevent market entry of any
alcohol producing plants in the U.S.. Brazil buys so little that market
entry for alcohol couldn't be stopped.

[Marvin the Martian]

Uncle Al , the battery pack will be recharged by surplus wind and
solar power via induction in the road or at the plug. The point is
gasoline is RUNNING OUT  and will soon become too expensive.

For gasoline to be as expensive as solar, it would have to cost 30x as
much, or about $90 per gallon.
For gasoline to be as expensive as wind, it would have to cost about $9
per gallon.
Meanwhile....
For gasoline to be as expensive as methanol, it would have to cost
about $2 per gallon. Wait... isn't gasoline above that now?! Why, yes
it is.
So you ask, if methanol only cost $2 per gallon, then why don't we see
1) It can't run in your car. It would dissolve your fuel system. Simple
changes have to be made to make your car flex fueled. To do this would
cost about $1 billion dollars for the auto companies to re-certify
their engines for gasoline/ethanol/methanol flex fuel. New cars would
have options. Once there were enough new cars on the market, gas
stations would start to sell Methanol.
Now, you ask, why did that idiot Obama spend $1 on his idiot "cash for
clunkers" giveaway, where people would get $4500 for turning in their
old cars for a fuel efficient one like a Hummer H3, when he could have
solved the energy crisis once and for all by paying the auto companies
to flex fuel their cars? Because the man is not just pig ignorant
stupid, he's trying to destroy the country.
2) Last time Methanol production threatened gasoline was during the
Arab Oil Embargo. Once Methanol was a threat, OPEC flooded the market
with cheap gasoline to drive them out of business. It is recognized
that any large scale effort to switch to Methanol would result in the
same reaction by the illegal bandit organization OPEC. The solution to
that is to slap a tax on oil imports to ensure that gasoline prices
remain where they are.

Good point but you are still duped and brainwashed. Using dollar coupons
as your reference point. If we was to say use gold then in 1900 you
would buy 50 times as much for a dollar. Both wind and solar would have
been very cheap in 1980 compared to what it costs now.

You couldn't even recover your cost using solar cells back in 1980. This
argument is absurd.

But lets not be sad about it, using alcohol as a fuel isn't as hard as
you say it is.
You know how an electrolyzer works? It is remarkably unimaginative.

Yes. They don't produce energy.

< snip >

Then also not to forget, hemp is a whole lot cheaper to grow than
anything else.

Yes. Stop smoking it in an effort to get stupid.

[gabydewilde]

[snip]

learn to read.

[Marvin the Martian]

Post by gabydewilde

[snip]

learn to read.

You can start by reading "Energy Victory" by Dr. Robert Zubrin.

Everything I talked about is explained in detail right there.

But then, you not into that. The 3rd grade insult is where you're at.

[gabydewilde]

[snip]

Did you lean to read already?

Uncle Al , the battery pack will be recharged by surplus wind and solar
power via induction in the road or at the plug. The point is gasoline is
RUNNING OUT and will soon become too expensive.

For gasoline to be as expensive as solar, it would have to cost 30x as
much, or about $90 per gallon.
For gasoline to be as expensive as wind, it would have to cost about $9
per gallon.
Meanwhile....
For gasoline to be as expensive as methanol, it would have to cost about
$2 per gallon. Wait... isn't gasoline above that now?! Why, yes it is.
So you ask, if methanol only cost $2 per gallon, then why don't we see
1) It can't run in your car. It would dissolve your fuel system. Simple
changes have to be made to make your car flex fueled. To do this would
cost about $1 billion dollars for the auto companies to re-certify their
engines for gasoline/ethanol/methanol flex fuel. New cars would have
options. Once there were enough new cars on the market, gas stations
would start to sell Methanol.
Now, you ask, why did that idiot Obama spend $1 on his idiot "cash for
clunkers" giveaway, where people would get $4500 for turning in their old
cars for a fuel efficient one like a Hummer H3, when he could have solved
the energy crisis once and for all by paying the auto companies to flex
fuel their cars? Because the man is not just pig ignorant stupid, he's
trying to destroy the country.
2) Last time Methanol production threatened gasoline was during the Arab
Oil Embargo. Once Methanol was a threat, OPEC flooded the market with
cheap gasoline to drive them out of business. It is recognized that any
large scale effort to switch to Methanol would result in the same
reaction by the illegal bandit organization OPEC. The solution to that is
to slap a tax on oil imports to ensure that gasoline prices remain where
they are.

Good point but you are still duped and brainwashed. Using dollar
coupons as your reference point. If we was to say use gold then in
1900 you would buy 50 times as much for a dollar. Both wind and solar
would have been very cheap in 1980 compared to what it costs now.

But lets not be sad about it, using alcohol as a fuel isn't as hard as
you say it is.

You know how an electrolyzer works? It is remarkably unimaginative.

Say we build one with say 200 plates, we make it big enough to run a
car.

Now in stead of destroying engines with 95% ethanol we can use 60%
ethanol.

60% ethanol is about 1/4 of the price of the pure stuff.

Then also not to forget, hemp is a whole lot cheaper to grow than
anything else. It grows in sand and refertilizes the soil all by it
self rather than destroying it. The only thing that prevents Obama
from doing this is the US drugs cartel. You see this is actually what
the US economy runs on.

But any biomass will do, there are such advanced yeast strains that it
really doesn't matter.

Of course the oil cartel hunts down anyone who dares to produce
alcohol on an industrial scale. You will be subjected to regular raids
and have to follow a strict code of not living. If they raid you in
the one minute before you put the poison in the alcohol you will be
railroaded off to a prison campf. Evidence may also be fabricated of
course.

So this leaves only one option, doing it yo-self. There are many
thousands building hydrogen fuel cells, and many thousands distilling
their own fuel at home. Nothing prevents you from doing so. Blindly
running after corporations and governments is really asking for it.
They are not here to help you but to destroy you.

more info here:
http://knol.google.com/k///1yrf1mzjtxzk5/25

[tom]

Post by gabydewilde

[snip]

Did you lean to read already?

Uncle Al , the battery pack will be recharged by surplus wind and solar
power via induction in the road or at the plug. The point is gasoline is
RUNNING OUT and will soon become too expensive.

For gasoline to be as expensive as solar, it would have to cost 30x as
much, or about $90 per gallon.
For gasoline to be as expensive as wind, it would have to cost about $9
per gallon.
Meanwhile....
For gasoline to be as expensive as methanol, it would have to cost about
$2 per gallon. Wait... isn't gasoline above that now?! Why, yes it is.
So you ask, if methanol only cost $2 per gallon, then why don't we see
1) It can't run in your car. It would dissolve your fuel system. Simple
changes have to be made to make your car flex fueled. To do this would
cost about $1 billion dollars for the auto companies to re-certify their
engines for gasoline/ethanol/methanol flex fuel. New cars would have
options. Once there were enough new cars on the market, gas stations
would start to sell Methanol.
Now, you ask, why did that idiot Obama spend $1 on his idiot "cash for
clunkers" giveaway, where people would get $4500 for turning in their old
cars for a fuel efficient one like a Hummer H3, when he could have solved
the energy crisis once and for all by paying the auto companies to flex
fuel their cars? Because the man is not just pig ignorant stupid, he's
trying to destroy the country.
2) Last time Methanol production threatened gasoline was during the Arab
Oil Embargo. Once Methanol was a threat, OPEC flooded the market with
cheap gasoline to drive them out of business. It is recognized that any
large scale effort to switch to Methanol would result in the same
reaction by the illegal bandit organization OPEC. The solution to that is
to slap a tax on oil imports to ensure that gasoline prices remain where
they are.

Good point but you are still duped and brainwashed. Using dollar
coupons as your reference point. If we was to say use gold then in
1900 you would buy 50 times as much for a dollar. Both wind and solar
would have been very cheap in 1980 compared to what it costs now.
But lets not be sad about it, using alcohol as a fuel isn't as hard as
you say it is.
You know how an electrolyzer works? It is remarkably unimaginative.
Say we build one with say 200 plates, we make it big enough to run a
car.
Now in stead of destroying engines with 95% ethanol we can use 60%
ethanol.
60% ethanol is about 1/4 of the price of the pure stuff.
Then also not to forget, hemp is a whole lot cheaper to grow than
anything else. It grows in sand and refertilizes the soil all by it
self rather than destroying it. The only thing that prevents Obama
from doing this is the US drugs cartel. You see this is actually what
the US economy runs on.
But any biomass will do, there are such advanced yeast strains that it
really doesn't matter.
Of course the oil cartel hunts down anyone who dares to produce
alcohol on an industrial scale. You will be subjected to regular raids
and have to follow a strict code of not living. If they raid you in
the one minute before you put the poison in the alcohol you will be
railroaded off to a prison campf. Evidence may also be fabricated of
course.
So this leaves only one option, doing it yo-self. There are many
thousands building hydrogen fuel cells, and many thousands distilling
their own fuel at home. Nothing prevents you from doing so. Blindly
running after corporations and governments is really asking for it.
They are not here to help you but to destroy you.
http://knol.google.com/k///1yrf1mzjtxzk5/25

It's obvious that you aren't an engineer or scientist by training
because you haven't done any of the math or you'd know what you support
is rubbish. Or you are ignoring it and are a troll.

In either case you aren't worth paying attention to.

tom

[gabydewilde]

Post by tom

Post by gabydewilde

[snip]

Did you lean to read already?

Uncle Al , the battery pack will be recharged by surplus wind and solar
power via induction in the road or at the plug. The point is gasoline is
RUNNING OUT  and will soon become too expensive.

For gasoline to be as expensive as solar, it would have to cost 30x as
much, or about $90 per gallon.
For gasoline to be as expensive as wind, it would have to cost about $9
per gallon.
Meanwhile....
For gasoline to be as expensive as methanol, it would have to cost about
$2 per gallon. Wait... isn't gasoline above that now?! Why, yes it is.
So you ask, if methanol only cost $2 per gallon, then why don't we see
1) It can't run in your car. It would dissolve your fuel system. Simple
changes have to be made to make your car flex fueled. To do this would
cost about $1 billion dollars for the auto companies to re-certify their
engines for gasoline/ethanol/methanol flex fuel. New cars would have
options. Once there were enough new cars on the market, gas stations
would start to sell Methanol.
Now, you ask, why did that idiot Obama spend $1 on his idiot "cash for
clunkers" giveaway, where people would get $4500 for turning in their old
cars for a fuel efficient one like a Hummer H3, when he could have solved
the energy crisis once and for all by paying the auto companies to flex
fuel their cars? Because the man is not just pig ignorant stupid, he's
trying to destroy the country.
2) Last time Methanol production threatened gasoline was during the Arab
Oil Embargo. Once Methanol was a threat, OPEC flooded the market with
cheap gasoline to drive them out of business. It is recognized that any
large scale effort to switch to Methanol would result in the same
reaction by the illegal bandit organization OPEC. The solution to that is
to slap a tax on oil imports to ensure that gasoline prices remain where
they are.

Good point but you are still duped and brainwashed. Using dollar
coupons as your reference point. If we was to say use gold then in
1900 you would buy 50 times as much for a dollar. Both wind and solar
would have been very cheap in 1980 compared to what it costs now.
But lets not be sad about it, using alcohol as a fuel isn't as hard as
you say it is.
You know how an electrolyzer works? It is remarkably unimaginative.
Say we build one with say 200 plates, we make it big enough to run a
car.
Now in stead of destroying engines with 95% ethanol we can use 60%
ethanol.
60% ethanol is about 1/4 of the price of the pure stuff.
Then also not to forget, hemp is a whole lot cheaper to grow than
anything else. It grows in sand and refertilizes the soil all by it
self rather than destroying it. The only thing that prevents Obama
from doing this is the US drugs cartel. You see this is actually what
the US economy runs on.
But any biomass will do, there are such advanced yeast strains that it
really doesn't matter.
Of course the oil cartel hunts down anyone who dares to produce
alcohol on an industrial scale. You will be subjected to regular raids
and have to follow a strict code of not living. If they raid you in
the one minute before you put the poison in the alcohol you will be
railroaded off to a prison campf. Evidence may also be fabricated of
course.
So this leaves only one option, doing it yo-self. There are many
thousands building hydrogen fuel cells, and many thousands distilling
their own fuel at home. Nothing prevents you from doing so. Blindly
running after corporations and governments is really asking for it.
They are not here to help you but to destroy you.
http://knol.google.com/k///1yrf1mzjtxzk5/25

It's obvious that you aren't an engineer or scientist by training

cute

Post by tom
because you haven't done any of the math

cute

Post by tom
or you'd know what you support is rubbish.

amusing

Post by tom
 Or you are ignoring it and are a troll.

funny

Post by tom
In either case you aren't worth paying attention to.

in self denial are we?

Lets see you address the subject like a grown up rather than cry about
the author.

I understand you are quite upset by so much truth.

It isn't going to go away by crying about the author kid.

:-)

You see, this masterwork is well beyond anything you can debunk.

http://knol.google.com/k///1yrf1mzjtxzk5/25

Small minded people like you will always feel inferior when talking to
smart people like myself.

Are you perhaps afraid to address the actual topic? Feel
intellectually challenged?

come come, give it your best shot. You kind of promised to prove it
all wrong, so where are the goods?

:-)

[Marvin the Martian]

Good point but you are still duped and brainwashed. Using dollar coupons
as your reference point. If we was to say use gold then in 1900 you
would buy 50 times as much for a dollar. Both wind and solar would have
been very cheap in 1980 compared to what it costs now.

Coupons? Gold? What the heck are you gibbering about?

[hanson]

hanson wrote:
... in response to the self-destructive, doom-laden and
pain-ridden mental orgasms of 3 exquisitely splendid
class 3 Enviros (def: here: < http://tinyurl.com/l6fhr4 > [1])
"gabydewilde", "MarvMartian" & "habshit", who wrote:
habshit, the paranoid class 3 enviro [1] wrote:
gasoline is RUNNING OUT and will soon become too expensive.
hanson wrote:
Habshit, the world is awash in oil. Gasoline / Fossil Fuels will
NOT be running out for the next 15000+ years at the current
consumption. And that is considering only the Carbon deposits
as a consequence of atmospheric O2, not even including the
C-deposits associated with the BIFs-Fe2/Fe3 banded ores of
2-3 Bya. Here are the calculation estimates:
<http://tinyurl.com/n254dk> & <http://tinyurl.com/nwkdkn>
ref: oil boys / peak oil: < http://tinyurl.com/pqfrlh >
= "Peak oil" & "Oil-end" scares are just political $$ games=
The cause and motivation is simple. Put YOURSELF into the
shoes of the folks/cabals/complexes, who are in control of the
commodities now, and ask yourself: -- "Why would you wanna
give up YOUR goose that lays the golden eggs for you?"...
in -- OIL - HEALTH CARE - TORT LAWYERS - CORNohol (in
42 states) - THE INDUS/MILITARY COMPLEX -- RELIGION --
WALLSTREET - THE CONGRESS - ALL BUREAUCRACIES
- LABOR UNIONS... are all being examples where the bastards
who are now in charge do fleece the willing peasantry. It is that
penthouse set of these/such entities which do resist any change.
Get a feel for their feel. Why would they wanna give up their
cushy sweet deal... Would you do it, if you were them?
Don't lie now!
All social endeavors are money games from the get go and
always will be so. Only the mentally poorest of bumbshits do
side with "parties", being too stupid to realize... that because
no matter whom they support, they, the peasants, are gonna
get jack shit, zero, zilch, nada... while the $$ they were hoping
for are distilled upwards for the benefit of the few goons at the
top... like i.e. Al Gore with his warm, Green scam... ahahaha...
Methanoliker, Marvin the Martian <***@ontomars.org> wrote:
if methanol only cost $2 per gallon, then why don't we see
methanol for sale?
hanson wrote:
.... because Methanol / MeOH a bad, BAD deal. See here:
<http://tinyurl.com/pzzjsn> & < http://tinyurl.com/qp8e4m>
100% i-Octane carries 0/114 = 0% water & burns 100% as fuel.
100% Ethanol carries 18/46 = 40% water & burns 60% as fuel.
100% Methanol carries 18/32 = 56% water & burns 44% as fuel.
## So, MeOH fuel equivalence costs you $2/0.44 = $4.54/gal ##
Methanoliker, Marvin the Martian <***@ontomars.org> wrote:
.. idiot Obama .. is not just pig ignorant stupid, he's trying to
destroy the country.
hanson wrote:
.... ahahaha.. AHAHAHAHA... now you sound like the acid reflux
from the sour grape song that kikes make because a Black dude
moved into the White House before any Jew so did ... ahahaha..
Methanoliker, Marvin the Martian <***@ontomars.org> wrote:
Last time Methanol production threatened gasoline was during
the Arab Oil Embargo. Once Methanol was a threat, OPEC
flooded the market with cheap gasoline to drive them out of
business. It is recognized that any large scale
effort to switch to Methanol would result in the same reaction by
the illegal bandit organization OPEC. The solution to that is to slap
a tax on oil imports to ensure that gasoline prices remain where
they are.
hanson wrote:
Yes indeed, that was so during and after the Carter Years and his
80 $Billion Synfuel debacle: <http://tinyurl.com/nmfdce> and how
the oil boys did it: <http://tinyurl.com/5r2qde>
Wild "gabydewilde" went wild and wrote:
lets not be sad about it, using alcohol as a fuel isn't as hard as
you say it is. Then also not to forget, hemp is a whole lot cheaper
to grow than anything else. The only thing that prevents Obama
from doing this is the US drugs cartel.
hanson wrote:
... ahahahah.. AAHHHhh... the "Hemp"... ahahahaha... Gaby, it's
not the US Drug Cartel that prevents Hemp and Pot to be used.
Both were used in wanton abandon till ~1937, when the counter
fanatics, the "Good Templars" of the "Temperance Movement"
ushered in the Prohibition era, which led to the vast & corrupt
DEA bureaucracy with its War on Drugs, that seems to be without
end... & is perhaps so geared that the bureaucracy will never die...
The Good templars were the ancestors of today's Green Shits"
So, Gaby, you have a dilemma here... ahahaha...AHAHA...
"gabydewilde" wrote:
Of course the oil cartel hunts down anyone who dares to produce
alcohol on an industrial scale.
So this leaves only one option, doing it yo-self. There are many
thousands building hydrogen fuel cells, and many thousands distilling
their own fuel at home. Nothing prevents you from doing so. Blindly
running after corporations and governments is really asking for it.
They are not here to help you but to destroy you.
hanson wrote:
ahahahaha... Gaby, the government will not destroy you. It needs
you to pay taxes. But if "destruction by govt" is your choice of fear
then for you to change that environment, it is much cheaper and
more effective for you to use your energy, by you to convince your
neighbors, for them convince their neighbors, etc, etc.... to vote
your current reps out of office and to vote in new ones who will do
your bidding and legitimize your interests...
Moral of the story for "A practical solution to the oil "crisis".
Watch the stock market and the news. When the oil prices fall
down to $20-30/bbl. take your savings and buy oil stocks or
-futures. When the oil price goes up with the next round of a
peak oil machination and scam, as certainly will happen, then
cash in and your gains will subsidize your gasoline purchases.
Till then, thanks for the laughs, guys.... hahahaha... ahahahanson

[harmony]

Post by hanson
Moral of the story for "A practical solution to the oil "crisis".
Watch the stock market and the news. When the oil prices fall
down to $20-30/bbl. take your savings and buy oil stocks or
-futures. When the oil price goes up with the next round of a
peak oil machination and scam, as certainly will happen, then
cash in and your gains will subsidize your gasoline purchases.
Till then, thanks for the laughs, guys.... hahahaha... ahahahanson

go nuke now or the the end is near:

Methane seeps from Arctic sea bed
By Judith Burns
Science and environment reporter, BBC News

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8205864.stm

[hanson]

"harmony" who sees harm in money <***@hotmail.com>
is a quasi semi-reformed class 3 enviro but who still is afraid
of her own shadow when she wrote:
"hanson" <***@quick.net> wrote in message news:owoim.2549$***@nwrddc02.gnilink.net...
---- <http://tinyurl.com/nc4sdj> ---- that concludes with:
Moral of the story for "A practical solution to the oil "crisis":
Watch the stock market and the news. When the oil prices fall
down to $20-30/bbl. take your savings and buy oil stocks or
-futures. When the oil price goes up with the next round of a
peak oil machination and scam, as certainly will happen, then
cash in and your gains will subsidize your gasoline purchases.
Till then, thanks for the laughs, guys.... hahahaha... ahahahanson
"harmony" wrote:
go nuke now
hanson worte:
Right, do no harm and take some of your money and invest
it in corporations which develop new nuke power stations...
to atone for what you and your full idiotic green assed ilk
has done for the past 40 years:
---------- <http://tinyurl.com/l8wvcr> -------- wherein it says:
|||| If these green bastards would not have stymied all nuclear
|||| reactor developments, for the last 40 years, we would have
|||| today plenty of cheap electricity, no rad-chem disposal
|||| problems, we would have modern batteries and advanced
|||| capacitors in our cars instead of gas-tanks and we would
|||| be driving in hi-powered nonpolluting electric cars... etc...
But chances that you little green idiots will do anything
constructive is slim to zero. For the last 40 years you green
shits have railed against Big Oil, Big Coal, Big Nuke & now
with those dudes beginning to turn green you enviros turds
are already railing & wailing against Big Solar & Big Wind.
.... ahahahahaha.... In the link above Mr. Gisin is absolutely
right in his feelings towards the greens... Read it and wonder.
"harmony" wrote:
or the the end is near:
[because] Methane seeps from Arctic sea bed
By Judith Burns [your arse and your mind]
Science and environment reporter, BBC News
<http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8205864.stm>
hanson wrote:
... ahahahaha... Look at the entire series of these many current
doom & gloom TV-shows about how the world is going to end,
including the funniest one: "Life after People"... which makes
your obsessive fear of CH4 leaks out to be just a very minor
nuisance, a pitiful side show... about which you at least then
should do YOUR part to stop it::
---------- # Stop farting, in harmony and otherwise# ---------
Thanks for the laughs, though.... ahahahaha... ahahahanson

[harmony]

semi-reformed class 3 enviro but who still is afraid of her own shadow
Watch the stock market and the news. When the oil prices fall
down to $20-30/bbl. take your savings and buy oil stocks or
-futures. When the oil price goes up with the next round of a
peak oil machination and scam, as certainly will happen, then
cash in and your gains will subsidize your gasoline purchases.
Till then, thanks for the laughs, guys.... hahahaha... ahahahanson
go nuke now
Right, do no harm and take some of your money and invest
it in corporations which develop new nuke power stations...
to atone for what you and your full idiotic green assed ilk
has done for the past 40 years: ----------
|||| If these green bastards would not have stymied all nuclear ||||
reactor developments, for the last 40 years, we would have |||| today
plenty of cheap electricity, no rad-chem disposal |||| problems, we would
have modern batteries and advanced |||| capacitors in our cars instead of
gas-tanks and we would |||| be driving in hi-powered nonpolluting
electric cars... etc...
But chances that you little green idiots will do anything
constructive is slim to zero. For the last 40 years you green
shits have railed against Big Oil, Big Coal, Big Nuke & now
with those dudes beginning to turn green you enviros turds
are already railing & wailing against Big Solar & Big Wind.
.... ahahahahaha.... In the link above Mr. Gisin is absolutely
right in his feelings towards the greens... Read it and wonder.

hanson dear, be honest and tell us how you felt after chernobyl and 3 mile
island episodes.
i sure was unnerved after reading about glowing cows in belgium.

[because] Methane seeps from Arctic sea bed
By Judith Burns [your arse and your mind]
Science and environment reporter, BBC News
<http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8205864.stm>
... ahahahaha... Look at the entire series of these many current
doom & gloom TV-shows about how the world is going to end,
including the funniest one: "Life after People"... which makes
your obsessive fear of CH4 leaks out to be just a very minor nuisance, a
pitiful side show... about which you at least then
should do YOUR part to stop it:: ---------- # Stop farting, in harmony
and otherwise# ---------
Thanks for the laughs, though.... ahahahaha... ahahahanson

well, this is just one of so many global warming related stuff that comes
out periodically, and that period is increasingly getting shorter by the
week. collectively taken, the end is coming.
i hope you ready for jusus-2. this time he is coming out of alabama.

[hanson]

Post by harmony

is a quasi >> semi-reformed class 3 enviro but who still
Watch the stock market and the news. When the oil prices fall
down to $20-30/bbl. take your savings and buy oil stocks or
-futures. When the oil price goes up with the next round of a
peak oil machination and scam, as certainly will happen, then
cash in and your gains will subsidize your gasoline purchases.
Till then, thanks for the laughs, guys.... hahahaha... ahahahanson
go nuke now
Right, do no harm and take some of your money and invest
it in corporations which develop new nuke power stations...
to atone for what you and your full idiotic green assed ilk
has done for the past 40 years: ----------
|||| If these green bastards would not have stymied all nuclear ||||
reactor developments, for the last 40 years, we would have |||| today
plenty of cheap electricity, no rad-chem disposal |||| problems, we would
have modern batteries and advanced |||| capacitors in our cars instead of
gas-tanks and we would |||| be driving in hi-powered nonpolluting
electric cars... etc...
But chances that you little green idiots will do anything
constructive is slim to zero. For the last 40 years you green
shits have railed against Big Oil, Big Coal, Big Nuke & now
with those dudes beginning to turn green you enviros turds
are already railing & wailing against Big Solar & Big Wind.
.... ahahahahaha.... In the link above Mr. Gisin is absolutely
right in his feelings towards the greens... Read it and wonder.

hanson dear, be honest and tell us how you felt after
chernobyl and 3 mile island episodes. --- i sure was
unnerved after reading about glowing cows in belgium.

hanson wrote:
"glowing cows in Belgium" ... ahahahaha... Someone
sprayed them with "day-glow" paint to unnerve folks like
you... ahahaha...
AFA the nuke accidents, well, shit happens & I got angry
because it was biz as usual: "Go for the lowest bid"...
So, what can you expect.
OTHO, that is crying into the wind, like you do... because
both of us do that very same thing when we go shopping:
Get the "best" price... ahahahaha...
"harmony", the harmony in the real word is not dictated by
your nor by my standards of harmony... ahahahaha...

Post by harmony

[because] Methane seeps from Arctic sea bed
By Judith Burns [your arse and your mind]
Science and environment reporter, BBC News
<http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8205864.stm>

hanson wrote:
... ahahahaha... Look at the entire series of these many current
& gloom TV-shows about how the world is going to end,
including the funniest one: "Life after People"... which makes
your obsessive fear of CH4 leaks out to be just a very minor
nuisance, a pitiful side show... about which you at least then
should do YOUR part to stop it::
----- # Stop farting, in harmony and otherwise # ---------
Thanks for the laughs, though.... ahahahaha... ahahahanson
"harmony" wrote:
well, this is just one of so many global warming related stuff
that comes out periodically, and that period is increasingly
getting shorter by the week.
hanson wrote:
... yeah, yeah... GW and CH4, which are your farts... getting
shorter by the week?... Looks like you fat slob are finally on
a diet.... ahahaha...
"harmony" wrote:
collectively taken, the end is coming.-- i hope you ready
for jusus-2. this time he is coming out of alabama.
hanson wrote:
... You go ahead and do that in harmony, "harmony".
I, OTOH have no such issues. To me it's a mystery
where the "I"/Id came from when my DNA assembled.
And when I croak, there may or may not new mysteries
to come. ... I love mysteries, the real ones... Mine
are not doom and gloom like yours. Mine are in true
harmony with the greater scheme of things. I love it.
Take care fatty... be well & "fart proudly"... ahahahanson

[gabydewilde]

hanson wrote:

... in response to the self-destructive, doom-laden and
pain-ridden mental orgasms of 3 exquisitely splendid
class 3 Enviros (def: here: < http://tinyurl.com/l6fhr4 > [1])
"gabydewilde", "MarvMartian" & "habshit", who wrote:

habshit, the paranoid class 3 enviro [1] wrote:
gasoline is RUNNING OUT and will soon become too expensive.

hanson wrote:

Habshit, the world is awash in oil. Gasoline / Fossil Fuels will
NOT be running out for the next 15000+ years at the current
consumption. And that is considering only the Carbon deposits
as a consequence of atmospheric O2, not even including the
C-deposits associated with the BIFs-Fe2/Fe3 banded ores of
2-3 Bya. Here are the calculation estimates:
<http://tinyurl.com/n254dk> & <http://tinyurl.com/nwkdkn>
ref: oil boys / peak oil: < http://tinyurl.com/pqfrlh >

= "Peak oil" & "Oil-end" scares are just political $$ games=

The cause and motivation is simple. Put YOURSELF into the
shoes of the folks/cabals/complexes, who are in control of the
commodities now, and ask yourself: -- "Why would you wanna
give up YOUR goose that lays the golden eggs for you?"...

in -- OIL - HEALTH CARE - TORT LAWYERS - CORNohol (in
42 states) - THE INDUS/MILITARY COMPLEX -- RELIGION --
WALLSTREET - THE CONGRESS - ALL BUREAUCRACIES
- LABOR UNIONS... are all being examples where the bastards
who are now in charge do fleece the willing peasantry. It is that
penthouse set of these/such entities which do resist any change.

Get a feel for their feel. Why would they wanna give up their
cushy sweet deal... Would you do it, if you were them?
Don't lie now!

All social endeavors are money games from the get go and
always will be so. Only the mentally poorest of bumbshits do
side with "parties", being too stupid to realize... that because
no matter whom they support, they, the peasants, are gonna
get jack shit, zero, zilch, nada... while the $$ they were hoping
for are distilled upwards for the benefit of the few goons at the
top... like i.e. Al Gore with his warm, Green scam... ahahaha...

gaby wrote:

You forgot the PRISON-INDUSTRIAL-SLAVERY CONSPIRACY
But generally. Yes, fuck stupid tribal mundane peasant fucks.

Methanoliker, Marvin the Martian <***@ontomars.org> wrote:
if methanol only cost $2 per gallon, then why don't we see
methanol for sale?

hanson wrote:

.... because Methanol / MeOH a bad, BAD deal. See here:
<http://tinyurl.com/pzzjsn> & < http://tinyurl.com/qp8e4m>
100% i-Octane carries 0/114 = 0% water & burns 100% as fuel.
100% Ethanol carries 18/46 = 40% water & burns 60% as fuel.
100% Methanol carries 18/32 = 56% water & burns 44% as fuel.
## So, MeOH fuel equivalence costs you $2/0.44 = $4.54/gal ##

Methanoliker, Marvin the Martian <***@ontomars.org> wrote:
.. idiot Obama .. is not just pig ignorant stupid, he's trying to
destroy the country.

hanson wrote:

.... ahahaha.. AHAHAHAHA... now you sound like the acid reflux
from the sour grape song that kikes make because a Black dude
moved into the White House before any Jew so did ... ahahaha..

Methanoliker, Marvin the Martian <***@ontomars.org> wrote:
Last time Methanol production threatened gasoline was during
the Arab Oil Embargo. Once Methanol was a threat, OPEC
flooded the market with cheap gasoline to drive them out of
business. It is recognized that any large scale
effort to switch to Methanol would result in the same reaction by
the illegal bandit organization OPEC. The solution to that is to slap
a tax on oil imports to ensure that gasoline prices remain where
they are.

hanson wrote:

Yes indeed, that was so during and after the Carter Years and his
80 $Billion Synfuel debacle: <http://tinyurl.com/nmfdce> and how
the oil boys did it: <http://tinyurl.com/5r2qde>

Wild "gabydewilde" went wild and wrote:
lets not be sad about it, using alcohol as a fuel isn't as hard as
you say it is. Then also not to forget, hemp is a whole lot cheaper
to grow than anything else. The only thing that prevents Obama
from doing this is the US drugs cartel.

hanson the enviromentalist wrote:

... ahahahah.. AAHHHhh... the "Hemp"... ahahahaha... Gaby, it's
not the US Drug Cartel that prevents Hemp and Pot to be used.
Both were used in wanton abandon till ~1937, when the counter
fanatics, the "Good Templars" of the "Temperance Movement"
ushered in the Prohibition era, which led to the vast & corrupt
DEA bureaucracy with its War on Drugs, that seems to be without
end... & is perhaps so geared that the bureaucracy will never die...

The Good templars were the ancestors of today's Green Shits"
So, Gaby, you have a dilemma here... ahahaha...AHAHA...

gaby wrote:

The drug cartels bring in more money than anyone else.
I guess the flex dope citizens could make the switch to
economically sustainable cocaine.

Everything would have to changenosis, the fuel, the food,
gangsters would upset the arms trade.

Orwell's idea for illegal pornography novels was kinda good.
It would only require warsington making talk about sex illegal.

Experts proofed Sex makes you psychotic, it turns you
into a violent killer, it is potentially fatal just talking about
it and it is unpatriotic.

Mandatory life sentence seems appropriate.

"gabydewilde" wrote:

Of course the oil cartel hunts down anyone who dares to produce
alcohol on an industrial scale.
So this leaves only one option, doing it yo-self. There are many
thousands building hydrogen fuel cells, and many thousands distilling
their own fuel at home. Nothing prevents you from doing so. Blindly
running after corporations and governments is really asking for it.
They are not here to help you but to destroy you.

hanson the fearmonger wrote:

ahahahaha... Gaby, the government will not destroy you. It needs
you to pay taxes. But if "destruction by govt" is your choice of fear
then for you to change that environment, it is much cheaper and
more effective for you to use your energy, by you to convince your
neighbors, for them convince their neighbors, etc, etc.... to vote
your current reps out of office and to vote in new ones who will do
your bidding and legitimize your interests...

gaby wrote:

Nah, then get responses liek Malvaceae the diarrhea
Liek: "Yes. Stop smoking it in an effort to get stupid."
This is one to make the learned elders proud :-)
They worked so hard engineering people like this,
I would hate to be the one to spoil it. :-)

hanson wrote:

Moral of the story for "A practical solution to the oil "crisis".
Watch the stock market and the news. When the oil prices fall
down to $20-30/bbl. take your savings and buy oil stocks or
-futures. When the oil price goes up with the next round of a
peak oil machination and scam, as certainly will happen, then
cash in and your gains will subsidize your gasoline purchases.

gaby wrote:

Then at least can laugh about people complaining about it.
I don't need money, have no use for it. I wish I wasn't
surrounded by idiots. I mean look at yourself Hanson.
They drove you absolutely bananas. Not a day goes by
without you spending your time observing them in full
amazement. Valuable time that you are not spending
on anything constructive.

Then you talk with such intelligent person like myself
and lo and behold we are talking about the stupid
people again. We might as well be watching Oprah.

You really feel smart stealing from stupid people eh?

Have you no shame?

:-)

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